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« Reply #125 on: April 16, 2009, 06:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Sen. DownWithTheLeft on April 16, 2009, 06:12:53 PM
I think I challenge HW's decision to bring forward a vote on cloture and ask that it be struck as invalid because SPC had an amendment that should have been brought to a vote

I believe a call to vote on cloture supersedes other votes and normal debate. I may be wrong though.
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« Reply #126 on: April 16, 2009, 06:55:05 PM »
Quote from: Sen. DownWithTheLeft on April 16, 2009, 06:12:53 PM
I think I challenge HW's decision to bring forward a vote on cloture and ask that it be struck as invalid because SPC had an amendment that should have been brought to a vote

Oh yeah. Thank you, DWTL. Smiley
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« Reply #127 on: April 16, 2009, 09:46:48 PM »
Dwtl why are you bringing this up as opposing "my decision"?  You were the one who originally called for cloture.


Also I believe Bacon King is right, cloture supercedes.  However since its been over 48 hours the cloture fails anyways since we did'nt get the 7 votes necessary.  SPC, please remind me of the amendment's material by the way.
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« Reply #128 on: April 16, 2009, 10:19:26 PM »
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on April 16, 2009, 09:46:48 PM
 However since its been over 48 hours the cloture fails anyways since we did'nt get the 7 votes necessary. 

I object. Two thirds of those voting must favor cloture for it to pass. The vote was 6-3. Cloture was successful.
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« Reply #129 on: April 16, 2009, 10:39:05 PM »
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« Reply #130 on: April 16, 2009, 10:48:48 PM »
Since cloture passed its time for the final vote.
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« Reply #131 on: April 17, 2009, 12:59:35 AM »
« Edited: April 17, 2009, 01:03:20 AM by Senator PiT »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on April 16, 2009, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on April 16, 2009, 09:46:48 PM
 However since its been over 48 hours the cloture fails anyways since we did'nt get the 7 votes necessary. 

I object. Two thirds of those voting must favor cloture for it to pass. The vote was 6-3. Cloture was successful.

     It says two-thirds of the Senate, not two-thirds of those Senators voting. That implies that it needs 7 votes.

     Besides, that's how it works in real life. You seriously wouldn't think a cloture motion could be considered to have passed if the U.S. Senate voted in favor of it 50-25.
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« Reply #132 on: April 17, 2009, 01:12:27 AM »
Quote from: Senator PiT on April 17, 2009, 12:59:35 AM
Quote from: Senator Franzl on April 16, 2009, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on April 16, 2009, 09:46:48 PM
 However since its been over 48 hours the cloture fails anyways since we did'nt get the 7 votes necessary. 

I object. Two thirds of those voting must favor cloture for it to pass. The vote was 6-3. Cloture was successful.

     It says two-thirds of the Senate, not two-thirds of those Senators voting. That implies that it needs 7 votes.

     Besides, that's how it works in real life. You seriously wouldn't think a cloture motion could be considered to have passed if the U.S. Senate voted in favor of it 50-25.

I apologize sincerely, I mixed up the rules regarding motions to table and cloture.

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Even the 48 hour limit didn't apply to cloture. Sorry about that.

On the motions to table, it does only apply to senators voting.
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« Reply #133 on: April 17, 2009, 01:31:15 AM »
     Mistakes happen. I'm just glad it was caught before another final vote was incorrectly called.
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« Reply #134 on: April 17, 2009, 08:29:00 AM »
So I guess now that we just go back to debate. 

On the SPC Amendment:

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« Reply #135 on: April 17, 2009, 08:48:48 AM »
Nay.
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« Reply #136 on: April 17, 2009, 08:58:24 AM »
     Nay
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« Reply #137 on: April 17, 2009, 10:44:33 AM »
Nay...it's an awful idea.
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« Reply #138 on: April 17, 2009, 10:57:32 AM »
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« Reply #139 on: April 17, 2009, 11:52:18 AM »
Nay
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« Reply #140 on: April 17, 2009, 12:22:37 PM »
I propose an amendment to change the title to "Rich People Deserve Their Money Taken Away Act of 2009"

Note, this is a joke I do want this voted upon
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« Reply #141 on: April 17, 2009, 01:16:51 PM »
Quote from: Sen. DownWithTheLeft on April 17, 2009, 12:22:37 PM
I propose an amendment to change the title to "Rich People Deserve Their Money Taken Away Act of 2009"

Note, this is a joke I do want this voted upon

Do you mean this is not a vote you don't want it voted on or this is not a vote you don't want it voted on? Huh
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« Reply #142 on: April 17, 2009, 01:22:34 PM »
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on April 17, 2009, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: Sen. DownWithTheLeft on April 17, 2009, 12:22:37 PM
I propose an amendment to change the title to "Rich People Deserve Their Money Taken Away Act of 2009"

Note, this is a joke I do want this voted upon

Do you mean this is not a vote you don't want it voted on or this is not a vote you don't want it voted on? Huh
I want that voted on as an amendment
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« Reply #143 on: April 17, 2009, 01:24:48 PM »
SPCs amendment fails.  On DWTLs:

NAY
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« Reply #144 on: April 17, 2009, 01:37:59 PM »
Nay.

(You know, I think you can ignore things like DWTL's amendment as frivolous. Check the senate rules first though)
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« Reply #145 on: April 17, 2009, 02:26:43 PM »
BK is right.

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« Reply #146 on: April 17, 2009, 02:59:30 PM »
Let's go ahead and vote on it anyway.

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« Reply #147 on: April 17, 2009, 05:32:03 PM »
Aye

I plan to challenge HW's decision if he chooses to strike down a vote on my amendment

I will have another amendment later on today or tomorrow
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« Reply #148 on: April 17, 2009, 08:32:33 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: April 17, 2009, 09:52:50 PM »
Aye on my amendment, FTR.

Aye on DWTL's amendment.
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