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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2012, 11:42:19 PM »

Interesting thesis, Mr. Calhoun, but I don't think it's constitutional grounds are very solid.

Seems solid enough for several states to have already done so. Also, if Obamacare is good, then it shouldn't need the non-compliant states anyway since it's merit will be proven elsewhere.

Unless, of course, you have figured out that universalized healthcare is a damn mess and the non-Obamacare states would make the Obamacare states look backwards. In which case I wonder why you would support Obamacare at all.

You're assuming that Republican governors are rational people who care about good policy rather than ignorant hacks who would reject anything which doesn't correspond to their mind-numbed world view. But since you're like them, I don't expect you to understand...

But don't worry, non-compliant States will be made to comply. Wink
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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2012, 11:02:46 AM »

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Through what? Arrests of non-compliant people? Good luck with arresting Catholic nuns.
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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2012, 11:11:51 AM »

Interesting thesis, Mr. Calhoun, but I don't think it's constitutional grounds are very solid.

Seems solid enough for several states to have already done so. Also, if Obamacare is good, then it shouldn't need the non-compliant states anyway since it's merit will be proven elsewhere.

Unless, of course, you have figured out that universalized healthcare is a damn mess and the non-Obamacare states would make the Obamacare states look backwards. In which case I wonder why you would support Obamacare at all.

You're assuming that Republican governors are rational people who care about good policy rather than ignorant hacks who would reject anything which doesn't correspond to their mind-numbed world view. But since you're like them, I don't expect you to understand...

But don't worry, non-compliant States will be made to comply. Wink

Uh, how? Last I checked, the Supreme Court also said that the government is incapable of forcing the states to adopt the Obamacare exchanges, which make it actually possible. Therefore, all the talk of "Obamacare is now the OFFICIAL system of the USA" is nonsensical.
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2012, 11:29:56 AM »

I thought the SCOTUS decision only allowed the states to refuse to sign on to Medicaid expansion.  There was nothing, to my knowledge, in the case brought against Obamacare about the state exchanges.
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« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2012, 12:06:18 PM »

I thought the SCOTUS decision only allowed the states to refuse to sign on to Medicaid expansion.  There was nothing, to my knowledge, in the case brought against Obamacare about the state exchanges.

That's because the Obamacare law already allowed the States to opt out of running exchanges, which many are doing.  Exact numbers aren't in yet but it looks like only around 20 States will be running exchanges on their own, 13 or so will be co-managing them with the Federal government and the rest (including Missouri which had a ballot referendum on this) will leave it all to the Feds to deal with.
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