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« on: May 08, 2009, 08:08:14 AM »
« edited: May 08, 2009, 08:12:42 AM by Dave Leip »

One of my favorite maps to make - New York by township:


This map is the culmination of compiling all data collected from each county individually (ex NYC where there is only one "town" per county).
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 08:23:09 AM »

In 2004, Bush won 780 municipalities vs. 219 for Kerry.  In 2008, Obama increased the the ratio to 375 to McCain's 626.  Most of the flips are in Upstate suburbs, the North Country (Northern Adirondacks and Quebec border) and the Catskill region.  My home county of Onondaga saw 9 flips alone - with only four small towns ("Southern Tier") staying in the Republican column. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2009, 08:32:21 AM »

Three towns flipped from Kerry to McCain:
Throop (Cayuga - interesting given how many of its neighboring towns flipped the other way.  Kerry won by 2 votes in 2004, McCain by 23 in 2008)
Brant (Erie - Kerry won by only 13 votes in 2004, McCain by 72 in 2008)
Sangerfield (Oneida - total vote 814 in 2004, 966 in 2008)
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2009, 09:24:07 AM »

Hi,
Thanks - yes, I built a gigantic spreadsheet incorporating all the precinct data from all 62 counties (including NYC) -> both unfused and fused votes + compiled sheets aggregate the precinct data by city/town, by Assembly District, by Senate District, by Congressional District, and by County.  I've made it available on the store page (this particular set of data requires a lot of work - so I ask a bit more than usual for the data).  I still have some minor items to clean up - like qualified write-in vote by precinct in Monroe County, etc, buts its in excellent shape. 

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009, 09:25:52 AM »


Hope you have seen the Minnesota and Wisconsin maps already completed. I'm working now on Michigan - and being a bit anal - collecting the write-in votes for complete, accurate percentages.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 11:41:49 AM »

I'm curious to know how you actually obtained the data file from each county. Did you send letters? Emails? Make phone calls? Some combination of the above? And about how much time did it take? And did most counties charge you, or no?

The reason I ask is because we had to do this for about 120 counties nationwide for the presidential results by CD project, and it was a long, arduous and sometimes expensive project, so I'm wondering how your effort compared. It took myself and a colleague almost two months to collect all of them, and it involved a lot of emails (many unanswered), many phone calls (often more than one to the same BoEs), some formal snail mail FOI requests, and about $300 in out-of-pocket expenses for counties which charged for the data (something which drives me endlessly nuts). And it would have cost even more but for some successful wheedling with a few really outrageous counties.

We had to deal with a number of counties in NY. Most were easy to deal with, and a few charged us. The NYC BoE was pretty helpful but wouldn't release preliminary data to us for parts of Queens in which there was a pending state Senate recount, so we had to cool our heels. The worst was Nassau, which promised me a disk for ages, and then finally sent me a hardcopy canvass book.

Oh, and that's another thing. The quality of the data varied widely. Sometimes we got nice Excel files. Other times we got computer-generated PDFs. Other times we got scanned-in PDFs (ugh). And still others, we had things faxed to us (worst by far). We uploaded everything we got here:

http://www.scribd.com/group/70753-2008-precinct-level-election-results

My experience is about the same as yours.  Long, arduous, expensive, inconsistent.  Emails, faxes, phone calls - it takes persistence.  Some states have standardized all the counties on the same system (e.g. GA) -> but many, including New York are still county-by-county.  The good news is that most counties now are recording data in some form of electronic file (when I compiled 1992, about half I had to type in by hand - Including Nassau and Westchester!).  Then there are the errors.  Since I am a stickler for proper reconciliation, I investigate differences between the state-wide canvass and the county-canvasses.  It happens more often than one would expect.

I noticed the files you uploaded to scribd - this is a good thing to share.  I have been considering including a feature on the atlas that builds a library of "primary source" documents (i.e. official reports - summary and precinct) linked in to each of the individual counties - could be uploaded by anyone.  Let me know whether you like this idea. (note that some counties actually over-write their data every election and therefore the original information is lost - no history!).  Would be nice to capture and record.

Dave

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 11:58:07 AM »

Since you have the 2004 results could make a swing map or trend map as compared to 2004?

Sure - attached is the NY Swing Map 2004 - 2008.
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