UK General Discussion

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Speaking of George Galloway.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/21/ed-miliband-is-not-bringi_n_3126775.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

A totally unnecessary storm in the teacup. Minor strategic error. At least the Tory spinners seem to be being nice enough not to run with it.

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Churchill to be put on the fiver in 2016.

Not sure I'm happy with the precedent that'll start...

[politicus]

Churchill to be put on the fiver in 2016.

Not sure I'm happy with the precedent that'll start...

Thatcher on the fifty?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Churchill to be put on the fiver in 2016.

Not sure I'm happy with the precedent that'll start...

Thatcher on the fifty?

That would actually be bleakly appropriate given the role fifty quid notes had during the miners strike...

(as in police from the South lining up in front of striking miners - most of which were desperately poor by the halfway point of the strike -, dropping their trousers and waving fifty quid notes - their extra special overtime pay - in front of their arses. Apparently this happened a lot).

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Oh my...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2013/apr/26/atos-zoe-williams

Everything I hear about Atos makes it sounds like it is in the direct pay of Satan. One more chunk of evidence...

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Oh my...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2013/apr/26/atos-zoe-williams

Everything I hear about Atos makes it sounds like it is in the direct pay of Satan. One more chunk of evidence...

"Same old wicked Tories", "They just don't get it", "It's hurting, but it isn't working", "Have they found Mrs. Thatcher fit for work yet?". Any generic Labour soundbite fits when ATOS is brought up.

A scummy piece of policy from a scummy DWP Sec. and a scummy PM who don't understand what they're doing to people.

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EdM announces tax breaks for companies who'll pay the living wage.

[DC Al Fine]

EdM announces tax breaks for companies who'll pay the living wage.

What is "the living wage"?

[MaxQue]

EdM announces tax breaks for companies who'll pay the living wage.

What is "the living wage"?

It's defined as the wage for a person working 40 hours/week, which allows it to meet all its basic needs.

One can suppose it's like the Canadian proposal of eqailising the minimum wage to the poverty threshold.

[DC Al Fine]

EdM announces tax breaks for companies who'll pay the living wage.

What is "the living wage"?

It's defined as the wage for a person working 40 hours/week, which allows it to meet all its basic needs.

One can suppose it's like the Canadian proposal of eqailising the minimum wage to the poverty threshold.

I know. I was asking for the $ figure.

[Leftbehind]

£7.45 (up to £8.55 in London), rather than the minimum wage of £6.19.

I'm not to happy with a promise of tax breaks across the board; the notion that the living wage needs to be 'encouraged' just seems more customary spinelessness from our politicians - it should become the mandated minimum wage Labour promises in 2015, with any talk of tax breaks limited to a minority of businesses that can prove they couldn't financially withstand it.

The idea that supermarkets etc should get tax breaks for the very least what they should be paying is outrageous, and UK business is already sitting on astronomical sums that they've progressively stole from workers.

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Nigel Farage added to YouGov's leadership approval ratings. He's in at an impressive/terrifying (delete as one sees appropriate) +24%.

Nigel Farage 44-20% = +24%
David Cameron 36-57% = -21%
Ed Miliband 29-56% = -27%
Nick Clegg 21-69% = -48%

Come back next week and we should have a good picture of which leaders have come out of the local elections better off/least worst.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He's basically unknown as anything other than a random camp ranter.

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Owen Jones just tweeted that Sheffield Labour asked him to stand against you-know-who in Sheffield Hallam. He turned them down.

Says a bit about the kind've candidate the local party's looking for.

[Phony Moderate]

Haha.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22328898

[afleitch]

No one really knows Nigel Farage which is a strength and a weakness. The public seem to like people for some strange reason who really don't deserve it like the tired and emotional old Lib Dem leader.

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Haha.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22328898

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And the Tories would very much like those voters back!

[Silent Hunter]

£7.45 (up to £8.55 in London), rather than the minimum wage of £6.19.

I'm not to happy with a promise of tax breaks across the board; the notion that the living wage needs to be 'encouraged' just seems more customary spinelessness from our politicians - it should become the mandated minimum wage Labour promises in 2015, with any talk of tax breaks limited to a minority of businesses that can prove they couldn't financially withstand it.

Carrots are better than sticks generally - best to try persuasion first.

[Leftbehind]

Carrots for business and sticks for workers is usually the order of the day.

Those Farage figures aren't much to worry about: they're in answer to 'is x doing well or badly as leader of x' and so even I'd answer 'well' to that - he objectively is. When actually asked if he'd make a better PM or general approval he's decisively beaten by the other leaders (well perhaps not Clegg, but even then not by much, and Clegg's critically unpopular).

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Ed Balls

[YL]

The public seem to like people for some strange reason who really don't deserve it like the tired and emotional old Lib Dem leader.

Say what you like about Charles Kennedy, but he got Iraq right, which gives him quite a lot of credit in my book.

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Ed Balls

Ed. Balls.

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It's only just struck me, but why is the UKIP logo still just the £ sign?

I thought the € vs. £ debate was put to bed here like 10 years ago...

[DC Al Fine]

It's only just struck me, but why is the UKIP logo still just the £ sign?

I thought the € vs. £ debate was put to bed here like 10 years ago...

It's a good anti-EU symbol.

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It's only just struck me, but why is the UKIP logo still just the £ sign?

I thought the € vs. £ debate was put to bed here like 10 years ago...

It's a good anti-EU symbol.

When people see the £ sign, they don't automatically think "I hate Angela Merkel".