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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #75 on: July 06, 2012, 03:01:52 PM »

5 rounds. He will be "votable" again on round 36.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2012, 01:33:59 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2012, 01:41:53 PM by Antonio V »
Alan García is out





Crazy election to succeed him. Tongue


Round 32 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate and 1 vote to keep.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2012, 01:42:22 PM »
Eliminate Vejjajiva

Keep Bin Laden
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #78 on: July 08, 2012, 12:43:50 PM »
Abhisit Vejjajiva is out





He must be upset...

...as must be a certain poster  Tongue


Round 33 begins. You have 2 votes to eliminate to cast 1-1, and 1 vote to keep.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2012, 12:46:39 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2012, 12:50:10 PM by Antonio V »
Eliminate : Saleh, Mubarak

Keep Berlusconi
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #80 on: July 08, 2012, 01:45:13 PM »
Ben Ali is immune Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #81 on: July 10, 2012, 05:14:11 AM »
3-way tie between Bin Laden, Saleh and Mubarak. Solving it with a coin toss wasn't an easy task. Tongue


Ali Abdullah Saleh is out





Almost killed by the insurgents, but gets back from the dead...

...to step down on his own.



Round 34 begins. You have 1 vote to eliminate, and 2 votes to keep to cast 1-1.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #82 on: July 10, 2012, 05:24:19 AM »
Eliminate Mubarak

Keep Berlusconi, Gaddafi
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #83 on: July 10, 2012, 05:31:56 AM »
If you want to know how I proceeded, I tossed the coin twice, which meant four combinations were possible. If I got one of the first three, one of the contenders was ousted. If I got the last one, I tossed the coins again (fortunately that didn't happen).

Sorry for debunking your plans, Fab and Edu. Wink You came close to reaching your goal, but in the end I finally got to oust Saleh as I long wished. Considering all the tiebreaks that I have "lost" in the past, it was time something good happened.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #84 on: July 10, 2012, 07:18:48 AM »
Every contender has been immuned for the same number of rounds : five. I like my survivors to be regular and homogeneous. Tongue And the idea of letting one of the top 3 contenders be selected earlier through immunity was actually planned long ago. What's wrong with that ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2012, 05:52:51 AM »
Osama bin Laden is out





World's top public enemy for (almost) 10 years.





Basically... Don't mess with Barack.


Round 35 begins. You have 1 vote to keep. The person with the least votes will be eliminated.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2012, 05:57:01 AM »
Keep Berlusconi.

(hope Gaddafi makes it as well...)
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2012, 12:37:17 PM »
Wow, things turning out exactly as I hoped they would ? Really ?

How heartening, considering what happened the last time I held a "keep only" round. Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #88 on: July 12, 2012, 05:57:35 AM »
Hosni Mubarak is out





Overthrown...



...and tried.



But the revolution is not exactly over.


Here comes the Final round !

The final three contenders are :
- Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, for Tunisia
- Muammar Gaddafi, for Libya
- Silvio Berlusconi, Italy

The final round will consist in three duels, namely Ben Ali VS Gaddafi, Gaddafi VS Berlusconi and Berlusconi VS Ben Ali. You have 15 points overall, to split between the three duels (but you must use between 1 and 9 points in each of them). Pick the person you want to win in each duel.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #89 on: July 12, 2012, 06:07:17 AM »
Ben Ali / Gaddafi (5 points)
Gaddafi / Berlusconi (3 points)
Berlusconi / Ben Ali (7 points)


(yeah, I know that splitting votes this way is completely irrational. Who cares ? Tongue)
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #90 on: July 12, 2012, 07:53:34 AM »
Quote from: JulioMadrid on July 12, 2012, 06:52:27 AM
Ben Ali / Gaddafi (5 points)
Gaddafi / Berlusconi (2 point)
Berlusconi / Ben Ali (2 points)

Huh You've got 15 points to cast.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2012, 06:17:51 AM »
Ben Ali 10 - 34 Gaddafi
Gaddafi 10 - 19 Berlusconi
Berlusconi 29 - 3 Ben Ali


#3 : Zine El Abidine Ben Ali







The beginning of...




#2 : Muammar Gaddafi





42 years of ruthless tyranny...



...bombings...



...and ridiculous suits.



Until his time came !



(with a little help)
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2012, 06:54:59 AM »
Survivor :
Silvio Berlusconi !





1994 : The irresistible rise of Italy's new strongman.

Always embattled...



...always surviving.



(again and again)

What scandals...



...trials...



...no-confidence motions...



...or even unpopularity couldn't achieve...



...the spread managed to !



Now, it's finally...



Or... is it ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2012, 06:58:56 AM »
This survivor is now over, thank you for participating. Smiley

I hope you enjoyed it, even though I admit my management of it was a bit amateurish and lazy. Please feel free to comment on it (whether positively or negatively).
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2012, 09:15:33 AM »
Quote from: big bad fab on July 13, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
You should have waited for Edu and hughento before closing the round Sad
Gaddafi could have won.

Hugh boycotted the round (his conception of what this survivor should be is probably not the same as that of most participants) and Edu's habit of constantly voting late gets a bit irritating...

I supported Gaddafi as well, but don't you think Berlusconi is a nice pick ? I personally was rather satisfied with the top 3.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #95 on: July 14, 2012, 05:41:43 AM »
I also thought DSK at least deserved to be in the top four. But Edu and others apparently had a different logic. But the members of the top 3 were all good picks and all could have made for fine winners. Ben Ali's downfall marked the start of the arab spring, arguably the most important event of the year. Gaddafi had ruled the country for over 40 years and was a worldwide infamous figure, and his fall involved a military intervention which saved the rebels from an assured slaughter, led to a month-long indecisive war, and finally ended up the way we know. Berlusconi's fall, while not exactly as important as Gaddafi's IMO, had an earth-shattering impact on Italian politics. I might have been announced, but it still triggered an amount of events which have transformed the country, ending a 17-year-long political cycle and starting a long phase of uncertainty.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,385
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #96 on: July 14, 2012, 06:11:07 PM »
Quote from: big bad fab on July 14, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
Berlusconi is a good survivor too, because he was vanquished by markets and that was even clearer than in Greece. And, before, he seemed unbeatable... so, his quick fall was a fine event in 2011.

To be fair, the first signs of his demise were the massive electoral defeats of may-june 2011. He was clearly aging, losing its fantastic PR skills, failing to grasp the trends in public opinion, and desperately gripping to a political reality that was crumbling from everywhere. In short, he became a prisoner of the delusions of his past glory, at the exact moment when such glory was fading away. Had he been 2001's Berlusconi, and had Italy's public opinion been what it was in 2001, he would most probably have kept enough political capital to hold on despite the markets. Even though markets were the decisive factor, every shot he had taken beforehand (sex scandals, electoral debacles, near-collapse of his parliamentary majority) played a key role. At least, that's my reading of events. Wink
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