Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Please take a look at our new proposition for an elected legislature:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.msg2728194#msg2728194

All suggestions and critiques are very welcome!

Oh, and Abstain.

Approved as constitutional. It may be passed.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons.

Not that I'm any great fan of gun ownership, but it doesn't achieve much to ban assault rifles, really. How many crimes are committed with an AK?

I don't know, want to find out?   

We could ask some people in Mexico City, maybe they will know. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  

It's been an honor, I guess. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

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X Jbrase

We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.

Excellent call.  

Some advise to Jbrase, you could simply put a small sin tax on CD's instead or something.  

[Fuzzybigfoot]

The Pacific General Assembly Amendment: AYE

Antonio V for Pacific Justice: AYE

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Forgive the intrusion, Pacific Legislature members, but I'd really like to hear from Governor Oakvale on the Federal Stimulus for your regional needs in my office.

Biggest Need
Least Concern
Amount (You can estimate)

I need it by tomorrow\tonight

Woah, sorry. With all the chaos about the UDL, the legislature bill, etc, it completely slipped my mind. Apologies.

Yay!  Earmarks!!!!!     

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Forgive the intrusion, Pacific Legislature members, but I'd really like to hear from Governor Oakvale on the Federal Stimulus for your regional needs in my office.

Biggest Need
Least Concern
Amount (You can estimate)

I need it by tomorrow\tonight

Woah, sorry. With all the chaos about the UDL, the legislature bill, etc, it completely slipped my mind. Apologies.

Yay!  Earmarks!!!!!     

$50,000,000 for a bgwah theme park.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

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Woah, sorry. With all the chaos about the UDL, the legislature bill, etc, it completely slipped my mind. Apologies.

Yay!  Earmarks!!!!!     

$50,000,000 for a bgwah theme park.

Could we have some to upgrade the ferries in Puget Sound?  Or money to build solar power plants? 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

And I wouldn't mind repealing the 3'd section of the bill, I added that part just in case someone would use "free-riders" as an argument against it.

I will vote for it if you remove the third amendment.  


Although I approve and encourage workers to negotiate with employers (over wages, compensation, hours, etc.) I believe forcing someone to join a union violates their personal inalienable rights.    

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I think we should just get this over already. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I think we should just get this over already. 

I'm going to hold the elections in the first week of the new year, if that works.

Alright, that sounds good.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Wasn't the election going to be today?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Do we have a "Get out the vote" campaign?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

HOW COMES WE DON'T EVEN HAVE AN ELECTION TRACKER ?? Scandal !!!

I'll show you a precise and detailed tracker of this extremely close and hardly fought election.

Voters : 8
Quota : 2


Count 1

Fuzzy : 4 ELECTED
Realisticid : 2 ELECTED
Jbrase : 1
Xahar : 1


Count 2

Fuzzy : 2 ELECTED (-2)
Realisticid : 2 ELECTED
Jbrase : 2 ELECTED (+1)
Xahar : 2 ELECTED (+1)


Fuzzybigfoot, Realisticidealist, Jbrase and Xahar are therefore elected to the Pacific council.

hughughug

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Thanks realisticidelist for putting me last behind Jbrase, who isn't close JCP or UDL in terms of ideology.    Traitor.


(No offense, Jbrase) 


I just had to return the favor. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Yes, but still.  I know you agreed with him on naying my weapons act, which is an opinion I respect, but I am still closer to you in terms of economic ideology.  

[Fuzzybigfoot]

The question of the hour is now who will get the one month terms and who will get the three month terms.

Well it isn't too hard to figure out.
By this point it is clear fuzzy will get 1st place. He is a solid progressive AND does not have an entire faction in the left who hates him, which is helpful .

Then Second place will go to realisticidealist. He is not a far-left extremist but at the same time he is not Xahar or myself so..yeah.

3'rd and 4th is anyone's guess. Xahar has a personal feud with some of the Washingtonian posters and his past record at elections in the Pacific would cause some to believe his run is Quixotic, but there only being 4 seats will guarantee him one.

Then I have a Econ score to the right of -10, nuff said.

We still have some people left to vote.     

It isn't over yet.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

The Pacific Citizens council will now decide the following bill, which was passed by the Council.

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[Fuzzybigfoot]

Nay, one of the things that sets the Pacific apart from other regions is its longstanding objection to regressive consumption taxes, including those designed to stimulate social engineering.

Dude, it taxes DRUGS.  DRUGS.  It's not like we're taxing food for needy people.  

If you dislike the term "sin tax" why don't you just amend the bill and send it back to us?  I seriously don't care what it's named. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

You see the problem is that it isn't taxing the Bourgeoisie pigs enough, and it needs to include a provision that the region will not only cover the cost of elective abortions, but we pay people extra to get them. then and only then can we call it a nice progressive bill that it fit for the region

The fact that you somehow see abortion as connected to anything else is a testament to the extremities attracted by the questionable introduction of a two-tiered legislature in the Pacific.  Perhaps your logically disturbing arguments and crass baiting go over well with the members of your council, but they will receive further scrutiny here.

The need for you to mischaracterize our views also demonstrates a lack of intellectual honesty which speaks for itself.

I am not here to rubber stamp your council's thoughtless tax increases and silly abortion regulations (banning partial-birth abortion?  I'm sorry, you may as well ban flag burning while you're at it).

Yes, how horrible, people will die off in droves now because of our tax on harmful drugs which they don't have to buy.  And the worst part, the money which is collected (from the poor, middle class and rich alike) goes to underfunded hospitals in low income areas and public college grants for aspiring medical practitioners.  We are such bastards.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Does it really matter what it is called?

Why should the Pacific be labeling certain acts sins? We are a secular government.

Oh yes, just like the Jesus Christ Party!!!! 

Maybe the name of the bill was meant to be silly too. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

If I don't like Coldplay, does that mean I should try to tax the sale of Coldplay albums and concert tickets, and then devote the revenues to music programs at schools?

Is Coldplay a primary cause of illusions and lung conditions? 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

If I don't like Coldplay, does that mean I should try to tax the sale of Coldplay albums and concert tickets, and then devote the revenues to music programs at schools?

Is Coldplay a primary cause of illusions and lung conditions?  

I believe it is a cause of a brain damage

But more seriously, this is similar to what I mentioned earlier--I think I could support a tax that goes towards funding the associated health care costs with drug use, etc. But if it just goes to the hospitals in general, I don't really think that's fair.

Well many hospitals already have high costs due to being understaffed or under equipped, this bill would be aimed at fixing both those problems.  

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Nay!

Wait, I'm an elected official and I can't vote here.  How can you?  Are only local officials not allowed to vote?