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« Reply #1050 on: May 02, 2011, 06:29:44 PM »
One tweet claims NL is LIB 4 NDP 2 CON 1.
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« Reply #1051 on: May 02, 2011, 06:30:08 PM »
This dude says he's in Australia and getting results emailed to him. No idea if they're legit numbers though: http://twitter.com/#!/BernardKeane
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« Reply #1052 on: May 02, 2011, 06:30:43 PM »
Yep I just referred to him.
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« Reply #1053 on: May 02, 2011, 06:30:59 PM »
Some birds who may or may not be erroneous inspire me to predict a LIB 4 NDP 2 CON 1 breakdown in NL. Very curious what will happen there.
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« Reply #1054 on: May 02, 2011, 06:31:05 PM »
Now for some proper theorizing...

I have the feeling that Trudeau was ahead of the time and began the shift in the Canadian dichotomy. Makes sense, given that he was a New Democrat. With the official rise of the NDP into opposition, the transition is complete. Trudeau's work is done.
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« Reply #1055 on: May 02, 2011, 06:31:32 PM »
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« Reply #1056 on: May 02, 2011, 06:34:40 PM »
Quote from: Lassalle Revivalist on May 02, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
Quote from: Meeker on May 02, 2011, 06:12:06 PM
If one were a cruel prankster, one could have a lot of fun on Twitter for the next few hours.
Would it still be illegal if the information you were spreading was false? Good question.

I think Rick Mercer posed this exact question yesterday...
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« Reply #1057 on: May 02, 2011, 06:38:47 PM »
Quote from: cinyc on May 02, 2011, 05:57:52 PM

That's silly.  If that's the case, so did Ignatieff:
"This election doesn't belong to the politicians, it doesn't belong to me; it belongs to the people of Canada; and I hope everybody will vote today and, of course, I want everybody to vote Liberal."

And probably Layton and Duceppe, too.  

Canada seems to be the king of silly election day laws.




I'm wondering if that law and the one prohibiting broadcast of election results breach the charter's protection of freedom of speech. It would be interesting to see what would happen if those laws were challenged.
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« Reply #1058 on: May 02, 2011, 06:40:14 PM »
Quote from: Smid on May 02, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: cinyc on May 02, 2011, 05:57:52 PM

That's silly.  If that's the case, so did Ignatieff:
"This election doesn't belong to the politicians, it doesn't belong to me; it belongs to the people of Canada; and I hope everybody will vote today and, of course, I want everybody to vote Liberal."

And probably Layton and Duceppe, too.  

Canada seems to be the king of silly election day laws.




I'm wondering if that law and the one prohibiting broadcast of election results breach the charter's protection of freedom of speech. It would be interesting to see what would happen if those laws were challenged.

Happened, Supreme Court said than no.
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« Reply #1059 on: May 02, 2011, 06:42:23 PM »
So, I just got back from voting + plus getting booze and pizza with my gf. Will not be partaking in any ED parties, and my campaign's not having one, and I dont feel like going to Paul Dewar's.
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« Reply #1060 on: May 02, 2011, 06:45:37 PM »
Quote from: Chemistry & Sleep Deprivation on May 02, 2011, 06:40:14 PM
Quote from: Smid on May 02, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Quote from: cinyc on May 02, 2011, 05:57:52 PM

That's silly.  If that's the case, so did Ignatieff:
"This election doesn't belong to the politicians, it doesn't belong to me; it belongs to the people of Canada; and I hope everybody will vote today and, of course, I want everybody to vote Liberal."

And probably Layton and Duceppe, too.  

Canada seems to be the king of silly election day laws.




I'm wondering if that law and the one prohibiting broadcast of election results breach the charter's protection of freedom of speech. It would be interesting to see what would happen if those laws were challenged.

Happened, Supreme Court said than no.

I believe the actual ruling was that it was a breach of the Section 2(b) freedom of expression guarantee, but one that was justified under the reasonable limits clause in Section 1.
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« Reply #1061 on: May 03, 2011, 12:26:53 AM »
This is now the thread for any post-election speculation; if any is actually needed. Discussion of riding results etc. should be in other thread.

Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on March 26, 2011, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: Nichlemn on March 26, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
Seems pretty likely the status quo will prevail, which is a waste.

While that's more likely than not, it's worth noting that the Canadian electorate can be a fickle thing, particularly during election campaigns.

Oh yes.
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« Reply #1062 on: May 03, 2011, 02:08:01 AM »
Snap judgement: Which election will have more historical significance - 1993 or 2011?
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« Reply #1063 on: May 03, 2011, 02:11:53 AM »
1993

2011 is just following up on 2004

2004 was just a mid-way point between 2011 and 1993.

But 1993 was just a response to the failure after 1984.

And 1984 was a response to the signing of the Constitution without Quebec's name on it.
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« Reply #1064 on: May 03, 2011, 12:09:49 PM »
Elizabeth May is only the second Green politician elected under FPTP, the first being Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion, UK in May 2010.
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« Reply #1065 on: May 03, 2011, 01:32:53 PM »
Ignatieff resigned as the Liberal leader.
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« Reply #1066 on: May 03, 2011, 03:26:32 PM »
So who will be the next victim leader? Rae? Goodale? Trudeau? Fry?
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« Reply #1067 on: May 03, 2011, 03:36:29 PM »
Fry. It simply has to be Fry.
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« Reply #1068 on: May 03, 2011, 03:40:02 PM »
Quote from: Refudiate on May 03, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Elizabeth May is only the second Green politician elected under FPTP, the first being Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion, UK in May 2010.

I don't think that's true...
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« Reply #1069 on: May 03, 2011, 03:41:07 PM »

Hedy Fry '11!
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« Reply #1070 on: May 03, 2011, 03:41:39 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on May 03, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Refudiate on May 03, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Elizabeth May is only the second Green politician elected under FPTP, the first being Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion, UK in May 2010.

I don't think that's true...

Elected to a national legislature, without defection.
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« Reply #1071 on: May 03, 2011, 03:49:20 PM »
Now that Ignatieff has resigned, if Bob Rae does become the next leader, I could see a merger between the NDP and the Liberals, if the NDP is open to that.  That's certainly a step in the opposite direction of what Ignatieff was saying last night though.

If Justin Trudeau is chosen as the next leader, I don't know that he'd be pushing for a merger, but I don't think he's old enough or established enough to get it.

The other option that I think would keep the Liberals in the centre would be Dominic LeBlanc, but he didn't run in 2008, so we'll see if he's interested now.
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« Reply #1072 on: May 03, 2011, 03:55:31 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on May 03, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Refudiate on May 03, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Elizabeth May is only the second Green politician elected under FPTP, the first being Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion, UK in May 2010.

I don't think that's true...

It isn't.  Technically, Jeanette Fitzsimons holds this distinction.  Although New Zealand uses the mixed member proportional system, she was elected to the Coromandel electorate in 1999.
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« Reply #1073 on: May 03, 2011, 04:20:46 PM »
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Quote from: bgwah on May 03, 2011, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Refudiate on May 03, 2011, 12:09:49 PM
Elizabeth May is only the second Green politician elected under FPTP, the first being Caroline Lucas in Brighton Pavillion, UK in May 2010.

I don't think that's true...

It isn't.  Technically, Jeanette Fitzsimons holds this distinction.  Although New Zealand uses the mixed member proportional system, she was elected to the Coromandel electorate in 1999.

He said she was the second Green politician elected under FPTP.  Fitzsimons wouldn't count because New Zealand uses MMP.
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« Reply #1074 on: May 03, 2011, 04:22:43 PM »
MMP includes an element of FPTP and Fitzsimons was elected through that element of FPTP.
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