MA: Re-Establishment of a Lieutenant Governor Amendment (Debating)

[Gass3268]

I still think this is an important piece to have. There are still cases that could present itself were a tie could occur. I would also support making the Assembly size and even number.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I still think this is an important piece to have. There are still cases that could present itself were a tie could occur. I would also support making the Assembly size and even number.

Why should a tie have to be broken?  And we just changed the assembly size... that was the time to bring up such a proposal.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Voting on the amendment is now open.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

AYE

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 1, and the NAYs are 0, with 4 not voting.  The AYEs have it, and the amendment is adopted.

[tmthforu94]

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 1, and the NAYs are 0, with 4 not voting.  The AYEs have it, and the amendment is adopted.

I know it's election season...but that's really pathetic.

Yo Inks - open an amendment that makes me Governor for life. Let's see if anyone catches it.

[Gass3268]

I still think this is an important piece to have. There are still cases that could present itself were a tie could occur. I would also support making the Assembly size and even number.

Why should a tie have to be broken?  And we just changed the assembly size... that was the time to bring up such a proposal.

Someone doesn't vote or abstains. Also I understand that we just addressed the assembly size, but we didn't know yet what role we wanted to give the new Lieutenant Governor. Now that we do, an even numbered assembly would make sense.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I still think this is an important piece to have. There are still cases that could present itself were a tie could occur. I would also support making the Assembly size and even number.

Why should a tie have to be broken?  And we just changed the assembly size... that was the time to bring up such a proposal.

Someone doesn't vote or abstains. Also I understand that we just addressed the assembly size, but we didn't know yet what role we wanted to give the new Lieutenant Governor. Now that we do, an even numbered assembly would make sense.

We just voted to abolish the provision allowing the Lt. Governor to cast a tie-breaker.  Wouldn't that imply that an odd-numbered Assembly makes sense?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I introduce the following amendment:

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[tmthforu94]

Why 60 hours? Why not 48 or 72?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Why 60 hours? Why not 48 or 72?

Because that's what it was before.  I don't care if we change it to 48 hours.

[tmthforu94]

Why 60 hours? Why not 48 or 72?

Because that's what it was before.  I don't care if we change it to 48 hours.

We need to stay consistent with numbers. I also want to introduce an amendment next session that has referendums last 72 hours. It's the only thing that currently requires 48 hours.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Why 60 hours? Why not 48 or 72?

Because that's what it was before.  I don't care if we change it to 48 hours.

We need to stay consistent with numbers. I also want to introduce an amendment next session that has referendums last 72 hours. It's the only thing that currently requires 48 hours.

Why do we need to stay consistent with numbers?

[tmthforu94]

Why 60 hours? Why not 48 or 72?

Because that's what it was before.  I don't care if we change it to 48 hours.

We need to stay consistent with numbers. I also want to introduce an amendment next session that has referendums last 72 hours. It's the only thing that currently requires 48 hours.

Why do we need to stay consistent with numbers?

It's easier to remember. I think it's a good idea to stick with days on any sort of vote - all public vote should be 72 hours. Everything regarding Assembly and Executive procedure should be 24, 48, or 72 hours.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Then how's 48 hours?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Someone please stop this amendment!  Please!

[tmthforu94]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

No.  They don't have to agree under my amendment.

[tmthforu94]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

No.  They don't have to agree under my amendment.

Hence why I said "if your proposal fails".

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

No.  They don't have to agree under my amendment.

Hence why I said "if your proposal fails".

Then what do you mean "by the looks of it".  I'm confused as to what you're proposing.

[tmthforu94]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

No.  They don't have to agree under my amendment.

Hence why I said "if your proposal fails".

Then what do you mean "by the looks of it".  I'm confused as to what you're proposing.

I'm saying that how it currently looks, with joint appointments, is that if an agreement can't be reached, the Lt. Governor makes the final decision.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Then how's 48 hours?

Either/or.

I have a proposed change if your proposal fails - by the looks of it, it seems that if the Governor and Lt. Governor don't make an appointment (possibly because they can't degree) then the Lt. Governor gets to make the appointment. That completely would give all the appointing power to the Lt., as they can just disagree with the Governor until the time has passed, then make an appointment on their own. I would say that if they can't agree after a certain period of time, the Speaker makes the decision.

Am I reading this right?

No.  They don't have to agree under my amendment.

Hence why I said "if your proposal fails".

Then what do you mean "by the looks of it".  I'm confused as to what you're proposing.

I'm saying that how it currently looks, with joint appointments, is that if an agreement can't be reached, the Lt. Governor makes the final decision.

Oh, ok - well in a little bit, I'll put mine up for a vote.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Voting is now open on the following amendment.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

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[Kitteh]

AYE

(while I'm still in the assembly

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Aye.