Politico: Christie & Cuomo = BFFs

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/andrew-cuomo-chris-christie-86093.html?hp=f1

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[Mehmentum]

The implied question here is what would their interactions be like in 2016 should they become the nominees.

[Maxwell]

Seems similar to how Christie and Booker were like for a while.

[Mr. Morden]

*bump*

http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/178838/christie-im-not-much-different-from-andrew-cuomo/

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[bballrox4717]

For those who are going to take this to be critical on Cuomo from the left, recognize that governing the state of New York is a completely different animal than national ideology. The fact that Cuomo is taking such an independent approach on any economic issues while remaining very socially liberal is the reason why he's so popular here. The older folks who lived around me will tell you that Cuomo is the best governor we've had in a long time.

That being said, I'm all for good relations between politicians. Too bad it seems to be a northeastern thing.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

To be fair, you're not facing steep competition for the "best governor" label when the last 20 years have been full of Pataki, Spitzer, and Paterson.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Spitzer was an excellent governor.

[Person Man]

Is this what politicians talk about when they say they have a "mandate" after an election?

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Spitzer was an excellent governor.

He was an excellent candidate. His governorship was a failure.

[King]

Great, they can run as indies together after both parties reject them as being INOs.

[Paul Kemp]

Spitzer was an excellent governor.

What did he do?

[King]

Spitzer was an excellent governor.

What did he do?

He gave us our nation's first blind governor.

[bballrox4717]

To be fair, you're not facing steep competition for the "best governor" label when the last 20 years have been full of Pataki, Spitzer, and Paterson.

True, but New York voters were excited by his candidacy and haven't been disappointed whatsoever. Cuomo is an excellent fit for the state and a great governor, but it probably can't translate to the national level. It's a shame.

Spitzer was an excellent governor.

He was an excellent candidate. His governorship was a failure.

Pretty much this.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Cuomo is a very capable governor and an extremely talented politician; I was jut poking fun.

[bedstuy]

Unfortunately, Christie and Cuomo are fairly similar on the issues.  Christie is an actual conservative and Cuomo is conservative because it's the easiest political posture.

I partially understand Cuomo's "pragmatism" because New York has a difficult political environment.  But, unlike with Bloomberg, I get the sense that Cuomo doesn't care about policy or actually making New York better.  He never really fights for progressive policy or advocates for the politically powerless.  I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

[Mr. Morden]

I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

Since both Christie and Cuomo are virtually assured of winning reelection, barring a surprise scandal, your earliest realistic date to be free of them would be January 2018, when Christie's second term as governor ends......and that only works if Cuomo leaves the governorship in January 2017 to be sworn in as president.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Cuomo has a lock on the governor's mansion until he doesn't want it anymore; his father probably wins a fourth term if he handles the death penalty issue better. Christie is a guy who I don't see running for a third term if he doesn't get his party's nomination.

[bedstuy]

I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

Since both Christie and Cuomo are virtually assured of winning reelection, barring a surprise scandal, your earliest realistic date to be free of them would be January 2018, when Christie's second term as governor ends......and that only works if Cuomo leaves the governorship in January 2017 to be sworn in as president.

I didn't say it would be quick.  And of course, I'd rather have Cuomo in the governor's mansion than the White House.  I'm just not looking forward to dealing with the results of Cuomo's policies.

[Simfan34]

Cuomo has a lock on the governor's mansion until he doesn't want it anymore; his father probably wins a fourth term if he handles the death penalty issue better. Christie is a guy who I don't see running for a third term if he doesn't get his party's nomination.

Don't we have term limits?

[bballrox4717]

Unfortunately, Christie and Cuomo are fairly similar on the issues.  Christie is an actual conservative and Cuomo is conservative because it's the easiest political posture.

I partially understand Cuomo's "pragmatism" because New York has a difficult political environment.  But, unlike with Bloomberg, I get the sense that Cuomo doesn't care about policy or actually making New York better.  He never really fights for progressive policy or advocates for the politically powerless.  I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

Define how raising taxes on the rich and attempting to raise the minimum wage is conservative at all. I'd also like to know how attempting to get rid of "stop and frisk" does not stand up for those who are politically powerless. Most other governors' would have approved fracking in the state already; it's an incredibly difficult issue to oppose in the economy right now.

It's always going to be difficult to know if a politician makes policy for political reasons or because he actually cares about policy, but right now, if you look at New York overall, Cuomo has had a damn successful governorship, and that's what counts.

I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

Since both Christie and Cuomo are virtually assured of winning reelection, barring a surprise scandal, your earliest realistic date to be free of them would be January 2018, when Christie's second term as governor ends......and that only works if Cuomo leaves the governorship in January 2017 to be sworn in as president.

I didn't say it would be quick.  And of course, I'd rather have Cuomo in the governor's mansion than the White House.  I'm just not looking forward to dealing with the results of Cuomo's policies.

While we obviously disagree on Cuomo's policy, you are absolutely right that Cuomo needs to stay in the governor's mansion. He's a pretty poor fit for a presidential campaign, though I believe he has skills needed for the presidency.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Cuomo has a lock on the governor's mansion until he doesn't want it anymore; his father probably wins a fourth term if he handles the death penalty issue better. Christie is a guy who I don't see running for a third term if he doesn't get his party's nomination.

Don't we have term limits?

New York no, New Jersey yes. My mistake.

[seanNJ9]

Two Republicans from neighboring states, both Italian American. Not surprised they are friends.

[bedstuy]

Unfortunately, Christie and Cuomo are fairly similar on the issues.  Christie is an actual conservative and Cuomo is conservative because it's the easiest political posture.

I partially understand Cuomo's "pragmatism" because New York has a difficult political environment.  But, unlike with Bloomberg, I get the sense that Cuomo doesn't care about policy or actually making New York better.  He never really fights for progressive policy or advocates for the politically powerless.  I can't wait until the tri-state area is free from both of these clowns.

Define how raising taxes on the rich and attempting to raise the minimum wage is conservative at all. I'd also like to know how attempting to get rid of "stop and frisk" does not stand up for those who are politically powerless. Most other governors' would have approved fracking in the state already; it's an incredibly difficult issue to oppose in the economy right now.

It's always going to be difficult to know if a politician makes policy for political reasons or because he actually cares about policy, but right now, if you look at New York overall, Cuomo has had a damn successful governorship, and that's what counts.

Has he raised the minimum wage?  No.  Has he already backed away from a minimum wage increase?  Yes.  Has he ended stop and frisk?  No.

He has raised some taxes, true.  But, he originally opposed making the income tax structure more progressive.  Progressive groups had to twist his arm on that and his arguments against the millionaire's tax sounded like they were coming from a Republican.  He's also put into place property tax caps (a horrible policy in my opinion).  The property tax cap is going to eventually ruin municipal finances and gut public education.  Just think about how California's tax cap has worked...

The other big issue for me are the budget cuts.  Obviously, we were in a bad economy.  But, there have been so many instances where I've personally seen misplaced priorities.  Specifically, look at his budget proposals on preventing homelessness.   

And if he wanted any of this progressive stuff, he could helped the Democrats get the state senate instead of handing it to the GOP on a silver platter.  What kind of Democrat supports GOP candidates for the legislature? 

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Cuomo can get the "GOP-controlled" senate to do whatever he wants if public opinion supports it. Look at how he got gay marriage legislation passed by convincing several Republicans to change sides and how he rammed through gun control with wide margins.

He supported a few Republicans who put their careers in jeopardy for gay marriage. He was neutral on who controlled the senate because it helps his bipartisan credentials with a split legislature. Also, the Democrats in New York are a laughing stock.

[bedstuy]

Cuomo can get the "GOP-controlled" senate to do whatever he wants if public opinion supports it. Look at how he got gay marriage legislation passed by convincing several Republicans to change sides and how he rammed through gun control with wide margins.

He supported a few Republicans who put their careers in jeopardy for gay marriage. He was neutral on who controlled the senate because it helps his bipartisan credentials with a split legislature. Also, the Democrats in New York are a laughing stock.

That's just a little too clever.  Cuomo wants the GOP to control a chamber of the state legislature because he's 1. actually fairly conservative and 2. only cares about own political power and standing.  Some people might like that I guess, but it seems very dishonest to me.