SENATE BILL: Prison Reform Act of 2013 (Law'd)
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2013, 11:41:21 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2013, 08:27:04 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2013, 11:27:07 AM »
I haven't the slightest idea why I should vote one way or the other here. Tongue

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2013, 09:42:22 AM »
Someone better start talking here, because poor Duke is going to have settle this tomorrow if no one else has voted by then, and he will probably be just as unsure about which way to vote.
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2013, 01:42:44 PM »
Quote from: Ѕenator Αverroës on June 19, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
Could you guys support the amendment if it limits the "obstruction of justice" exception to "judges, elected officials, and licensed attorneys" or something like that?

I could.
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2013, 03:42:53 PM »
The wording seems off, but maybe I'm missing something (or perhaps misinterpreting?)

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What we're talking about is a list of activities that would warrant exemption from the maximum prison sentence. By including the specification of "exceeding $50,000," it reads like dealing drugs at quantities exceeding $50,000 would be exempt, but any lower amount would not be exempt. In other words, the punishment would be harsher for someone selling less drugs.

Am I wrong?
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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2013, 05:19:45 PM »
Vote on amendment 55:21:

Aye (4): Αverroës Nix, Ben, Gass3268, and NC Yankee
Nay (4): Kalwejt, MaxQue, Napoleon and Snowstalker
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): HagridoftheDeep and sbane

With four votes in the affirmative and four in the negative with twon ot voting, the amendment vote is tied. The VP shall break the tie.
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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2013, 07:17:59 PM »
DUKE, YOU AINT IN A FLORIDA RETIREMENT YET!!! GET BACK HERE!!!! Tongue
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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2013, 05:16:31 PM »
I am here, and I officially break the tie for the ayes!

Congrats, this bill has now passed.
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« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2013, 07:40:19 PM »
Quote from: VP Duke on June 26, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
I am here, and I officially break the tie for the ayes!

Congrats, this bill has now passed.

It was for an amendment, love. Not the bill. Tongue
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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2013, 07:48:17 PM »
Quote from: President Marokai on June 26, 2013, 07:40:19 PM
Quote from: VP Duke on June 26, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
I am here, and I officially break the tie for the ayes!

Congrats, this bill has now passed.

It was for an amendment, love. Not the bill. Tongue

It's been a long day, sweetheart... Tongue

I came home and had a message from Yankee so I followed orders as quickly as I could, since I didn't get it earlier since I can't access AIM from work..
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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2013, 07:49:41 PM »
Quote from: Ѕenator Αverroës on June 26, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
I am ready for a final vote if there are no other concerns.

Senators, a final vote will begin in 24 hours if no one interrupts. Please, if you have an objection or an amendment, please post here or PM me before the period expires. Failure to do so will result in a final vote opening tomorrow evening regardless of what you have. I ruthlessly follow the rules.

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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2013, 08:56:12 PM »
Amendment proposal: remove obstruction of justice from text completely.
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« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2013, 06:17:58 PM »
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That is the closest approximation of what he is desiring. This is what is known as a the laziest of lazy amendments by the way and basically leaves it up to the PPT to effect the desired changes. Since iti s a by the desire an amendment consisting of instructions to be effected on the text, the more vague one is the more risk their is of something other than what you want being done as well. Just something to consider about this practice. For instance Nappy said, "remove "X" from text". That can be interpreted as striking just that word or striking as much as a section devoted to what X is.
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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2013, 03:42:50 PM »
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Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2013, 04:07:15 PM »
Nay. ''Related item'' is very vague, too.
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2013, 04:21:16 PM »
If the amendment passes, I will only remove Obstruction of Justice, and any subpoints connected to it, if any.
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« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2013, 04:22:35 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2013, 04:27:04 PM »
Quote from: Senator MaxQue on June 28, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
Nay. ''Related item'' is very vague, too.
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2013, 09:22:57 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2013, 11:52:53 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2013, 09:50:44 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2013, 09:58:43 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2013, 07:40:06 PM »
NAY


Vote on Amendment 55:29 by Napoleon:

Aye (1): Napoleon
Nay (6): Αverroës Nix, Ben, Gass3268, HagridoftheDeep, MaxQue, and NC Yankee
Abstain (1): Snowstalker

Didn't Vote (2): Kalwejt and sbane

With six vote in the negative, the amendment has been rejected.
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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2013, 07:41:05 PM »
« Edited: July 01, 2013, 08:08:52 PM by Senator Napoleon »
Amendment #1

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Amendment #2

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The purpose of the first amendment is to clarify (the term force doesn't necessarily cover all sex crimes for example). The second amendment is quite fair, I feel.
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