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« Reply #525 on: September 05, 2005, 11:05:53 PM »

Immunity:  Kufuor

Vote: Persson
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« Reply #526 on: September 05, 2005, 11:45:23 PM »

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« Reply #527 on: September 05, 2005, 11:51:39 PM »

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« Reply #528 on: September 06, 2005, 12:31:54 AM »

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« Reply #529 on: September 06, 2005, 02:42:07 AM »

Reese: Why?

Ok, I dislike Verhofstadt, so sure.

Verhofstadt. (in case you missed it... Wink)

And Earl when will you remove immunity? It's beginning to trouble the game now. Too few people left.
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« Reply #530 on: September 06, 2005, 03:07:38 AM »

He was very anti-war, you know?

Sampaio.
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« Reply #531 on: September 06, 2005, 03:56:09 AM »

Reese: Why?

Ok, I dislike Verhofstadt, so sure.

Verhofstadt. (in case you missed it... Wink)

And Earl when will you remove immunity? It's beginning to trouble the game now. Too few people left.

Hmm... I guess I will change my original plans and get rid of it when there are 10 people left, since I was planning on doing something special at that time anyways. Smiley
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« Reply #532 on: September 06, 2005, 08:17:34 AM »

Reese: Why?

Ok, I dislike Verhofstadt, so sure.

Verhofstadt. (in case you missed it... Wink)

And Earl when will you remove immunity? It's beginning to trouble the game now. Too few people left.

Hmm... I guess I will change my original plans and get rid of it when there are 10 people left, since I was planning on doing something special at that time anyways. Smiley
No, I think it should stay right until there's only two left.
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« Reply #533 on: September 06, 2005, 08:32:45 AM »

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« Reply #534 on: September 06, 2005, 10:58:17 AM »


I didn't know that, but of course so was Chirac.

Why Sampaio? He's a leftist. At least go after Blair or that Polish guy before.
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« Reply #535 on: September 06, 2005, 11:15:29 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2005, 11:17:37 AM by Lewis Trondheim »


I didn't know that, but of course so was Chirac.

Why Sampaio? He's a leftist. At least go after Blair or that Polish guy before.
They're leftists too, you know.
Basically I'm following this pattern of going after the guys on my mental list one at a time but not all the time, ie if I'm deviating from voting for the guy at the top of my list (currently Yushchenko) for once, I tend not to vote for the people right behind (ie, Blair)
And why Sampaio? Because alongside the Baltic people and Halonen he's the last arguable mere figurehead left.
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« Reply #536 on: September 06, 2005, 11:24:20 AM »

Blair isn't a leftist. He just happens to belong to the traditionally leftist party. Not to mention he's the most conservative person remaining after Verhofstadt.

And with what Bono told me, Sampaio isn't a complete figurehead. He has the power to dissolve parliment and call new elections, which is what he did with the last elections. He then let his party take over, which makes him good to me.
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« Reply #537 on: September 06, 2005, 11:28:39 AM »

Blair more conservative than Yushchenko? Lmao. Not sure about Vike-Freiberga; and I doubt you can fairly place people like Gusmao and Kufuor and Singh and even Kirchner on this scale.
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« Reply #538 on: September 06, 2005, 11:32:52 AM »

Gusmao is definately leftist. How can FRETILIN be classified as anything other than left? Ghana has a two-party system, with a leftist and righist party, Kufnor is from the left wing one. Singh's party is fairly broad, but generally is considered left, and Singh would definately be a leftist to me. And Peronists may run the spectrum quite a bit, but Kirchner definately leans to the left end of them, plus he's working on bringing in the "Dirty War" criminals.
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« Reply #539 on: September 06, 2005, 11:35:20 AM »

You can't classify third world politics all that easily. And o/c Singh was responsible for the pro-market economic reforms in India under Rao.
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« Reply #540 on: September 06, 2005, 11:42:29 AM »


I guess it depends what you mean by a leftist, but most of his domestic policies have been left wing, especially by international standards. The thing is he also tries to pretend that aren't (the main reason why I've never been a fan of him) and tries to divert media attention away from them by pursing somewhat authoritarian measures on law and order etc.
The idea that he's a sort of British Clinton is wrong (he's too moralistic for a start)... he's more like a Harold Wilson mk. II

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« Reply #541 on: September 06, 2005, 11:45:45 AM »

I guess it depends what you mean by a leftist, but most of his domestic policies have been left wing, especially by international standards. The thing is he also tries to pretend that aren't (the main reason why I've never been a fan of him) and tries to divert media attention away from them by pursing somewhat authoritarian measures on law and order etc.

Well it is a fact that he has moved Labour quite to the right, hence the term "New Labour". Labour is certainly far more right wing than it was in the 70s and 80s and is arguably to the right of the pre-Thachter Tories.

The idea that he's a sort of British Clinton is wrong (he's too moralistic for a start)

Being too moralistic is something I tend to associate with the right.
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« Reply #542 on: September 06, 2005, 12:07:51 PM »

Well it is a fact that he has moved Labour quite to the right,

He merely finished off a process begun by Kinnock and pretty much completed by the late, lamented John Smith. He added the PR glitz and did the symbolic stuff.

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Which is a carefully crafted PR myth that the Party has pretty much stopped using

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'80's yes (note that we suffered our worst election defeat since the 1931 wipeout in the '80's), '70's no. Not at all. There are a lot of myths about the Callaghan government, most of them veer on libel IMO.

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No way. Less liberal? Certainly. .

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"The Labour Party is a moral crusade or it is nothing"

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« Reply #543 on: September 06, 2005, 12:14:23 PM »

I realize that I started it, but maybe we should end this debate now. Tongue
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« Reply #544 on: September 06, 2005, 12:36:40 PM »

Reese: Why?

Ok, I dislike Verhofstadt, so sure.

Verhofstadt. (in case you missed it... Wink)

And Earl when will you remove immunity? It's beginning to trouble the game now. Too few people left.

Hmm... I guess I will change my original plans and get rid of it when there are 10 people left, since I was planning on doing something special at that time anyways. Smiley
No, I think it should stay right until there's only two left.

My original plan was to stop at 3, so no one gets to put someone into the final round.
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« Reply #545 on: September 06, 2005, 02:22:20 PM »

He came in second, and I wanted Persson out. So I thought he would be elimated, so I gave him immunity.
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« Reply #546 on: September 06, 2005, 04:12:08 PM »

Clark, I suppose.
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« Reply #547 on: September 06, 2005, 04:26:48 PM »

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« Reply #548 on: September 06, 2005, 05:04:26 PM »

Persson.
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« Reply #549 on: September 06, 2005, 05:57:47 PM »

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