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Question: If Bernie is the nominee, will you stay home or vote for someone else?
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No (D), I will vote for him
 
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No (R), I will vote for him
 
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No (I), will vote for him
 
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« Reply #125 on: August 11, 2017, 01:09:50 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.
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« Reply #126 on: August 11, 2017, 01:33:23 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.
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« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2017, 01:34:47 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.
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« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2017, 01:36:01 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.
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« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2017, 01:48:13 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

He's not a Marxist either. Again, learn basic political ideology.
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GGover
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« Reply #130 on: August 11, 2017, 01:48:30 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

Another absurd post. You're conflating marxism with socialism.
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« Reply #131 on: August 11, 2017, 02:37:40 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

He's not a Marxist either. Again, learn basic political ideology.

The man hung a Soviet flag in his office during the Cold War. He praised Castro. He praised the Sandinistas. He has repeatedly called himself a Socialist; are you really going to claim he means pre-Marxian Socialism?
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« Reply #132 on: August 11, 2017, 02:39:26 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

He's not a Marxist either. Again, learn basic political ideology.

The man hung a Soviet flag in his office during the Cold War. He praised Castro. He praised the Sandinistas. He has repeatedly called himself a Socialist; are you really going to claim he means pre-Marxian Socialism?

And Hillary recieved millions in donations from third-world dictators and Saudi Arabia. I can use spurious attacks too, see?
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« Reply #133 on: August 11, 2017, 02:45:29 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

He's not a Marxist either. Again, learn basic political ideology.

The man hung a Soviet flag in his office during the Cold War. He praised Castro. He praised the Sandinistas. He has repeatedly called himself a Socialist; are you really going to claim he means pre-Marxian Socialism?

It's almost as if people's political beliefs change over time.
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« Reply #134 on: August 11, 2017, 12:17:33 PM »

I'm not voting for Trump under any circumstances, but I'd have a hard time pulling the lever for Bernie. Might vote third party or hold my nose and vote for him if its against Trump. If it's any other Republican (even Pence) I'd probably vote for the Republican.
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« Reply #135 on: August 15, 2017, 12:10:08 PM »

He's trash, his policies are grade-A space cadet, and it seems like him and his "movement" are going out of their way to destroy the Democratic Party without showing any goodwill to the party in the first place. I mean, Bernie spouts his mouth about Democrats and offers largely unsolicited advice, when the truth is that he's not even a Democrat himself and never will be unless it's politically expedient. That's bullsh**t.

What's worse is that the party actually is starting to rebrand in his image yet he still hasn't actually done anything meaningful to help the party rebuild and win. Where's his e-mail list?

Say what you will about Hillary, but she has always f-cking been there to help the only political organization that everyone knows actually has the power and ability to make change.

His policies are Clinton's stated policies, more or less, no matter how Clinton supporters fancy themselves or Sanders supporters like to paint them.  Period.
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« Reply #136 on: August 15, 2017, 12:35:37 PM »

He's trash, his policies are grade-A space cadet, and it seems like him and his "movement" are going out of their way to destroy the Democratic Party without showing any goodwill to the party in the first place. I mean, Bernie spouts his mouth about Democrats and offers largely unsolicited advice, when the truth is that he's not even a Democrat himself and never will be unless it's politically expedient. That's bullsh**t.

What's worse is that the party actually is starting to rebrand in his image yet he still hasn't actually done anything meaningful to help the party rebuild and win. Where's his e-mail list?

Say what you will about Hillary, but she has always f-cking been there to help the only political organization that everyone knows actually has the power and ability to make change.

His policies are Clinton's stated policies, more or less, no matter how Clinton supporters fancy themselves or Sanders supporters like to paint them.  Period.

I agree with both of you. The metaphor I think of would be if General Patton were drawing up his invasion plans for Sicily when Clark Gable bursts in and says "Too many people have died under your watch! Young people love me! I'm the future of the army! I should get to draw up plans to invade Sicily!"

You might think - yes, he is a good face for the army and morale, yes a lot of people have died in fighting under George Patton, and yes we all want to invade Sicily and defeat the Axis powers, but I sure as hell am not going to let this guy be in charge here and now.

Similarly, yes, we all think Bernie is helpful at getting young people engaged, yes Democratic leadership has made a lot of mistakes in the past few years, some which have been very costly, and yes we all want to live in a country where everyone can afford college and healthcare. But there has sure as hell got to be a better person to go about achieving this than Bernie Sanders.

Although, as I said, if it came down to Bernie (D) vs. Trump (R), I'd vote for Bernie.
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« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2017, 07:13:05 AM »

If Bernie is the nominee, I vote Trump.
Sorry Commies. Payback sucks doesn't it?

Sanders is not a communist. Maybe learn basic political ideology first.

He's a Marxist scumbucket. Same difference in my book.

Your ideology died in the jungles of Indochina and was cremated in the Middle East.

And yours died with the Soviet Union. Take your breadlines someplace else. Your ideology has led to the highest death count in history. Your beloved Soviet Union was a failure. Cuba is a failure. North Korea is a failure. China had to divest itself of most of its Marxist trappings to stay afloat. You will bury us, Marxist? No. Americanism will outlast you.

Absurd straw man.

Every single country who has tried what you want has failed. Go find another country to screw up. I like mine the way it is.

He's not a Marxist either. Again, learn basic political ideology.

The man hung a Soviet flag in his office during the Cold War. He praised Castro. He praised the Sandinistas. He has repeatedly called himself a Socialist; are you really going to claim he means pre-Marxian Socialism?

It's almost as if people's political beliefs change over time.

Sanders's current message is a modification of his beliefs to make them palatable to the general public. This isn't uncommon.  Most officeholders worthy of any respect have to do at least some of this. A lot of bernie's supporters are not going to vote for a genuine socialist. I wouldn't be surprised if he became less positive with the soviet union, etc after the USSR fell and what was going on there became common knowledge.
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« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2017, 09:23:12 AM »

I don't like Bernie, he's a fraud the way he lives his life, but he actually is serious about his views and fights for it. Trump is a white supremacist lover, actual grifter, easy choice for a bad candidate.
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