HOUSE BILL: Second Korean War Declaration (Passed - Sent to the VP/PPT)
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« on: September 25, 2017, 05:55:41 PM »
« edited: October 03, 2017, 03:05:52 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 05:56:07 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 06:17:17 PM »

Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, and fellow Atlasians :

In all my days in the service of our republic — days that have seen hostile armies ravage our soil, seen disunionist agitators tear at the fabric of our federal compact, seen governments rise and fall within these hallowed halls — never have I offered legislation upon these floors with a greater sense of regret for my people. Not one of us here today wanted this war. That we find it necessary to wage it now is consequence of perhaps the worst military blunder since 1812. Many have been vexed, even angry, that it has come to this, have argued that it needed not be so. The bill now before us will do nothing to assuage those fears.

It makes no difference. We are at war : this is the plain fact of the matter. Our citizens have been attacked by a foreign power; the world has been enraged; our choice is not between war and peace, but between limited war and world war — a choice others will make for us, if we do not make it ourselves.

Friends and colleagues, on these conditions I recommend to you this Declaration of War, a war the lives of all posterity demand we wage, lest our broken oaths strike the spark of an inferno to burn the whole world over. We will fight this war, and we will win it; and, in doing so, spare ourselves and the rest of mankind the cold silence of oblivion.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 06:18:17 PM »

Does a war technically need to be declared considering we were just in a ceasefire?
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 06:23:17 PM »

Does a war technically need to be declared considering we were just in a ceasefire?
One could argue that, though I would prefer Congress formally assent to enter the conflict.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 07:40:36 PM »

Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, and fellow Atlasians :

In all my days in the service of our republic — days that have seen hostile armies ravage our soil, seen disunionist agitators tear at the fabric of our federal compact, seen governments rise and fall within these hallowed halls — never have I offered legislation upon these floors with a greater sense of regret for my people. Not one of us here today wanted this war. That we find it necessary to wage it now is consequence of perhaps the worst military blunder since 1812. Many have been vexed, even angry, that it has come to this, have argued that it needed not be so. The bill now before us will do nothing to assuage those fears.

It makes no difference. We are at war : this is the plain fact of the matter. Our citizens have been attacked by a foreign power; the world has been enraged; our choice is not between war and peace, but between limited war and world war — a choice others will make for us, if we do not make it ourselves.

Friends and colleagues, on these conditions I recommend to you this Declaration of War, a war the lives of all posterity demand we wage, lest our broken oaths strike the spark of an inferno to burn the whole world over. We will fight this war, and we will win it; and, in doing so, spare ourselves and the rest of mankind the cold silence of oblivion.

I could not agree more with this sentiment.  This is not a fight any of us want, but it is what we are called to.  There is no option of appeasing with evil after being attacked.  We must declare war and win.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2017, 02:18:23 AM »

Dear Mr. Speaker and all of the colleagues of the House, and all Atlasians, there are going to be some very tough decisions to make on this very sensitive issue that's in front of us right now.

The decision that we're facing is the vote to whether we go to war with North Korea (DPRK) or not. This cannot be taken lightly, and we would prefer NOT to go to war, but since all other options to contain the DPRK have failed, it's time to start this war.

And when we start this war, hopefully we can do the job efficiently, unlike the blunders associated with the Vietnam War or the 2003-present battles in Iraq.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 09:20:32 PM »
« Edited: September 30, 2017, 12:03:43 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 10:27:50 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 10:35:27 PM »

If the Congress desires to place an ultimate date for the withdrawal of all troops from the peninsula, then this is the way to do it. The grammarian in me would like to see a comma added after "North Korea" (as is the bill could appear to read "the mission is over; also remove all troops by 3/1/19").
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2017, 12:07:39 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 03:47:32 AM »

The amendment is adopted.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 03:49:54 AM »

A final vote is now open on the War Declaration, Representatives please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 03:50:50 AM »
« Edited: October 01, 2017, 03:57:14 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

AYE
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2017, 08:25:46 AM »

A very reluctant AYE.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2017, 10:13:52 AM »

An equally reluctant AYE.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2017, 10:15:42 AM »

Aye, but only because there's a timeframe in the bill.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2017, 06:03:59 PM »

AYE.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2017, 11:13:47 PM »

This has enough votes to pass, Representatives have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2017, 06:21:12 AM »

Aye, but only because there's a timeframe in the bill.
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2017, 01:49:34 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2017, 04:23:54 PM »

A very reluctant AYE.
Voting against it is futile since we are already committed to winning this war whether we vot to declare war or not, and our troops deserve to know that their fight is legitimate.
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2017, 02:17:56 AM »
« Edited: October 03, 2017, 02:21:36 AM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

Vote on Final Passage of the Second Korean War Declaration:

Aye (Cool: Harry S, Haslam2020, Illiniwek, JGibson, LouisvilleThunder, NC Yankee, Peebs, and VPH
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Rfayette

With eight votes in the affirmative the Second Korean War Declaration has passed.

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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2017, 02:20:52 AM »

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Passed 8-0 in the Atlasian House of Representatives,

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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2017, 02:31:44 AM »

     This bill passes Congress and is presented to the President.

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People's House of Representatives
Passed 8-0 in the Atlasian House of Representatives,


People's Regional Senate
Passed 6-0 in the Atlasian Senate assembled
Be it resolved, X President pro tempore
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President of Congress
Be it resolved, X Vice President PiT
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