WV-Zogby: Manchin +7 against Morrisey, +13 against Jenkins, +14 against Mooney (user search)
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IceSpear
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« on: October 23, 2017, 03:45:24 PM »

Manchin is a lock for re-election. He is one of the last "good ol' boy" moderate Dems along with Jon Tester. In a decade or so, the Dems will be filled with SJWs and lack any true relatable moderates or conservadems and states like WV will only elect Dems that are moderate or conservadems.

A Zogby poll is how you came to this conclusion? Even legit high quality polls in 2013 and mid 2014 showed Pryor and Landrieu with bigger leads than this poll shows for Manchin.

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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 04:16:05 PM »

Manchin is a lock for re-election. He is one of the last "good ol' boy" moderate Dems along with Jon Tester. In a decade or so, the Dems will be filled with SJWs and lack any true relatable moderates or conservadems and states like WV will only elect Dems that are moderate or conservadems.

A Zogby poll is how you came to this conclusion? Even legit high quality polls in 2013 and mid 2014 showed Pryor and Landrieu with bigger leads than this poll shows for Manchin.

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There was obviously a time when you probably thought of WV fondly, being one of the last solidly Democratic Southern states ... wouldn't you prefer it return to that instead of just being able to trash the state?

Anyway, I could honestly see anything happen with this race.  I think Manchin will win a relatively close election, but I wouldn't be shocked if he got the Pryor treatment.

Not at all. WV's peak for me was neutral/tilt negative when I first started tuning into politics in 2007/2008. After observing the state politically for the past decade and also going there in person multiple times, I only began to dislike it more and more. It went from dislike to hate after they nearly voted for a convicted felon prison inmate over Obama just because he was black. That's when they really showed their true racist colors (no pun intended.) And then it was clear that Obama getting re-elected was the last straw for the Racist WV Hicks, and a majority of the state has clearly resolved to never vote for any member of the anti-white group (i.e. Democratic Party) again unless they're a Republican mole like Jim Justice. And then of course, predictably, became the most Republican and pro-Trump state in the country due to the fact that he was the white resentment candidate.

It doesn't matter what I or anyone else does. WV will never return to even being the slightest bit competitive, much less solidly Democratic. If anything it's just going to get more and more Republican as more of the few remaining "my grandpappy would beat me with a coal shovel if I voted Republican!" elderly die off and are replaced by Saira Blairs. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump cracks 70% there in 2020 even if he's getting thumped nationally.

I'm surprised you think there's a high chance he could get Pryored! Tom, you're slowly becoming #woke. Wink
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 06:54:50 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2017, 06:59:16 PM by IceSpear »

Manchin is a lock for re-election. He is one of the last "good ol' boy" moderate Dems along with Jon Tester. In a decade or so, the Dems will be filled with SJWs and lack any true relatable moderates or conservadems and states like WV will only elect Dems that are moderate or conservadems.

A Zogby poll is how you came to this conclusion? Even legit high quality polls in 2013 and mid 2014 showed Pryor and Landrieu with bigger leads than this poll shows for Manchin.

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It honestly seems like your cheering for the repeal of Ocare, and for the GOP, elitist sock.

Not at all. If Manchin had even a 1% chance of winning re-election I'd support him, but he doesn't. If I lived in WV (I just puked in my mouth a bit at the thought) I'd vote for him in the general. But he's going to lose regardless, so we might as well nominate Paula Jean. Then everyone will accept the race is safe R and not burn millions in a bonfire trying to save Manchin when the writing is already on the wall. McCaskill, Donnelly, Tester, Heitkamp, Rosen, Sinema, etc. etc. could all put the money to far better use.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2017, 07:05:21 PM »

Manchin is a lock for re-election. He is one of the last "good ol' boy" moderate Dems along with Jon Tester. In a decade or so, the Dems will be filled with SJWs and lack any true relatable moderates or conservadems and states like WV will only elect Dems that are moderate or conservadems.

A Zogby poll is how you came to this conclusion? Even legit high quality polls in 2013 and mid 2014 showed Pryor and Landrieu with bigger leads than this poll shows for Manchin.

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It honestly seems like your cheering for the repeal of Ocare, and for the GOP, elitist sock.

Not at all. If Manchin had even a 1% chance of winning re-election I'd support him, but he doesn't. If I lived in WV (god forbid!) I'd vote for him in the general. But he's going to lose regardless, so we might as well nominate Paula Jean. Then everyone will accept the race is safe R and not burn millions in a bonfire trying to save Manchin when the writing is already on the wall.

If Manchin wins re-election, will you quit it with your Racist Hicks Theory?

It'll never happen. But fine, I'll humor you.

I wouldn't stop thinking WV is full of racist hicks (this is a fact, not an opinion.) But I would admit I was wrong about a majority of the state not being willing to vote for any member of the anti-white hate group (i.e. Democratic Party.) Although if Manchin won with a plurality it would still be technically accurate.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 08:59:56 PM »

Manchin is a lock for re-election. He is one of the last "good ol' boy" moderate Dems along with Jon Tester. In a decade or so, the Dems will be filled with SJWs and lack any true relatable moderates or conservadems and states like WV will only elect Dems that are moderate or conservadems.

A Zogby poll is how you came to this conclusion? Even legit high quality polls in 2013 and mid 2014 showed Pryor and Landrieu with bigger leads than this poll shows for Manchin.

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https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=192295.0

It honestly seems like your cheering for the repeal of Ocare, and for the GOP, elitist sock.

Not at all. If Manchin had even a 1% chance of winning re-election I'd support him, but he doesn't. If I lived in WV (I just puked in my mouth a bit at the thought) I'd vote for him in the general. But he's going to lose regardless, so we might as well nominate Paula Jean. Then everyone will accept the race is safe R and not burn millions in a bonfire trying to save Manchin when the writing is already on the wall. McCaskill, Donnelly, Tester, Heitkamp, Rosen, Sinema, etc. etc. could all put the money to far better use.

Smh, you think McCaskill and Donnelly have much better odds than Manchin?

Yes, by far. Not that it's hard to have better odds than 0%.
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