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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 08:16:17 PM »

The NRA will be fine. They have millions of members who pay not only for the benefits but because they are politically invested in the organization and are glad to give money, gun sales are still twice what they were in the Bush years, the gun confiscation movement is failing to win over popular opinion among young people, and a much more friendly Court is on its way that will strike down more needless laws.

You obviously didn't even skim the article, because if you did you'd find that the reason they are in trouble is that they "cannot access financial services essential" and they "lost insurance coverage — endangering day-to-day operations," not because a reduction in sales. This is because of the good work of the state of New York and the successes they've had to make sure that no one in the financial sphere is willing to due business with these merchants of death.    

In that case, why don't they just move to Indianapolis or Oklahoma City? Both are in solid red states and even the Democrats in those states are relatively pro-gun

The problem for them is that almost every bank, financial institution, insurance company, etc. (ones of the size that the NRA would need services from) is somehow involved in New York City.   
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2018, 08:17:09 PM »

Do we even know exactly what the New York govt did that resulted in this, and whether it was shady or whatever? Because if it is illegal, the NRA will eventually beat them.

I'm not a big fan of using the government to smother your enemies, but then again, that has never stopped Republicans either. They've been using their power in government to dismantle legitimate voter registration groups for a long time.

And let's not forget the GOP's war on Planned Parenthood.
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2018, 09:18:41 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2018, 09:23:50 PM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

Who's denying equal protection? Where does it say that financial services and insurance companies have to do business with groups they disagree with? This is the free market at work.

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« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2018, 03:44:38 AM »
« Edited: August 04, 2018, 03:48:47 AM by mencken »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

Who's denying equal protection? Where does it say that financial services and insurance companies have to do business with groups they disagree with? This is the free market at work.



Methinks you people would be singing a different tune if the New York Department of Financial Services urged businesses to stop conducting transactions with Amnesty International or the ACLU or Planned Parenthood.
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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2018, 03:51:53 AM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

If the group in question promotes domestic terrorism like the NRA does, then yes.

(Citation needed)

Seriously, do you really believe this drivel? Do you not see how easily your hyperbole could just as easily be turned around to slander liberal organizations ("ACLU supports terrorists"; "Planned Parenthood kills babies", etc.)? Or are you just that confident that right-wingers will be more kind to their ideological adversaries when they are in an equivalent position?
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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2018, 03:55:53 AM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

If the group in question promotes domestic terrorism like the NRA does, then yes.

(Citation needed)

Seriously, do you really believe this drivel? Do you not see how easily your hyperbole could just as easily be turned around to slander liberal organizations ("ACLU supports terrorists"; "Planned Parenthood kills babies", etc.)? Or are you just that confident that right-wingers will be more kind to their ideological adversaries when they are in an equivalent position?

Na, It's the when they go low, we also go equally as low.
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« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2018, 04:01:20 AM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

If the group in question promotes domestic terrorism like the NRA does, then yes.

(Citation needed)

Seriously, do you really believe this drivel? Do you not see how easily your hyperbole could just as easily be turned around to slander liberal organizations ("ACLU supports terrorists"; "Planned Parenthood kills babies", etc.)? Or are you just that confident that right-wingers will be more kind to their ideological adversaries when they are in an equivalent position?

Na, It's the when they go low, we also go equally as low.

And what state's Department of Financial Services has urged banks not to do business with any of those organizations?
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« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2018, 05:40:18 AM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

If the group in question promotes domestic terrorism like the NRA does, then yes.

(Citation needed)

You been living under a rock the last 5-6 years?
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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2018, 08:23:02 AM »

Have they considered any 2nd Amendment remedies?
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2018, 01:34:28 PM »

So, anyone thanking Governor Cuomo?
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2018, 12:56:14 AM »

So denying a group equal protection under the law is wonderful, so long as the group is an advocate for policies with which I disagree?

Who's denying equal protection? Where does it say that financial services and insurance companies have to do business with groups they disagree with? This is the free market at work.

Just because a corporation does something does not make it "the free market at work."
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2018, 02:35:03 AM »

Collaboration with a foreign power isn't  a good way to convince Americans that one is with them.
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2018, 12:01:14 PM »


He actually does deserve points for his "too bad" response.
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2018, 01:27:15 PM »

This is a fund raising tactic for the midterms, send out panicky news and the rubes pony up.
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