SB 8601: Party Organization Act (Final Vote on House Ver.)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

But let's look at what's arguably the "tamest" point here, name changes.

Let's say that Alliance decides to rename itself "Moderate Party". I'd assume the following:

1. People whose registrations are changed to "Moderate" are in fact staying in the same party, while those who keep the "Alliance" registration are effectively creating a new splinter party.
2. People who vote against the name change aren't saying they'd want to remain registered as the old name even if the party changes its name, rather, they want to remain within their party but believe it should keep the same name.
3. People registered in a party, in general, would prefer to stay in the same party even if it changes names rather than keeping their registration while leaving the party.
4. People who care enough to leave a party if it changes its name will do so anyway - it's not that much of a burden considering that if you care that much you're probably paying attention to the game. Again, most people who vote against a name change would still want to stay with the party even if it changes its name.

For name changes yes, I was talking about dissolution and mergers above though.

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Let's say that Alliance decides to rename itself "Moderate Party".

Don't give me any ideas.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Let's say that Alliance decides to rename itself "Moderate Party".

Don't give me any ideas.

After the RPP was forced to engage in a dual suicide pact with the JCP because bgwah couldn't grow up, one of the splinter parties that formed was the Moderate Party consisting of people like Afleitch, Franzl, etc. A large number of them would later form the nucleus of the original The People's Party. Coincidentally, their color was orange (yes actually orange), though this had no bearing on the selection of our color, which was mainly inspired by the colored used on wikipedia for several years to depict Federalists in the early Presidential Elections (though it was changed a few years back to this creamy orange thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1796_United_States_presidential_election)

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Let's say that Alliance decides to rename itself "Moderate Party".

Don't give me any ideas.

After the RPP was forced to engage in a dual suicide pact with the JCP because bgwah couldn't grow up, one of the splinter parties that formed was the Moderate Party consisting of people like Afleitch, Franzl, etc. A large number of them would later form the nucleus of the original The People's Party. Coincidentally, their color was orange (yes actually orange), though this had no bearing on the selection of our color, which was mainly inspired by the colored used on wikipedia for several years to depict Federalists in the early Presidential Elections (though it was changed a few years back to this creamy orange thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1796_United_States_presidential_election)

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If the feds actually make this their color, that would be the one case in which I would join.

[Pericles]

The aim statement in italics of the bill probably shouldn't be "to ensure preservation of employees' tips". That won't affect the substance of the bill when changed though, so I motion for a final vote, as we should get this over with and I think the bill is pretty clear, no amendments are being offered and people have made up their minds.

[Lechasseur]

I'm fine with a final vote being held

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The aim statement in italics of the bill probably shouldn't be "to ensure preservation of employees' tips". That won't affect the substance of the bill when changed though, so I motion for a final vote, as we should get this over with and I think the bill is pretty clear, no amendments are being offered and people have made up their minds.

I was under the impression that Sestak was getting ready offer an amendment based on his line of questioning, but that probably got stalled by the LOA.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am offering the above amendment to address one of the two major concerns that I have with the bill. As I stated in the previous paragraph it is my solid opinion that people's registrations, being administered by the Federal Gov't and not the entities in question" should in fact reflect and respect the constitutional rights to freedom of speech and assembly that is invoked when they opt through a personal choice to affiliate with a political party. This affiliation is thus a statement of their values and it should be altered by another person or group of persons.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Sestak]

Friendly.

[Sestak]

The amendment, being declared friendly and without objection in the following 24 hours, is adopted.

[Sestak]

Anything else from anyone? Or are we ready for a vote on this?

[Pericles]

Think it's time to get this done and passed. I motion that we move to a final vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A Final vote is now open on the Party Organization Act, Senators Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Pericles]

Aye

[Sestak]

Aye.

[Lachi]

Aye

[Lechasseur]

Aye

[Sestak]

Passes 4-0, 2 NV.

Aye: Lechasseur, Lok, Pericles, Sestak

Not Voting: Zaybay, NC Yankee

[Sestak]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye Ftr

[Sestak]

The House has passed an amended version of the bill. A final vote is now open on that version, pasted below:

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as amended

People's House of Representatives
Passed in the House of Representatives 5-1-0-3


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Senators, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would point that even the Party Renaming Act's provisions of requiring a majority quorum proved too much for the RPP To manage, even with a week long vote period. At least twice we failed to change the name of the party back to RPP from PCP, because we were short of the threshold. Part of the problem was that large numbers of the party members were basically Populares in all but name and took orders from Hamilton and thus didn't participate. Many more were just inactive.


So therefore I completely understand the reasoning behind not being ridiculous with the quorum requirements for many of these things.


AYE

[Sestak]

Aye.