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« on: December 04, 2018, 05:33:49 PM »

We must win it at all costs.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 05:36:04 PM »

Donald Trump resigns and goes back to the dems, moves to Bowling Green (in memory of the Bowling Green Massacre) and then wins as a dem
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 05:39:32 PM »

Andy Beshear is really the only chance:

McGrath just lost KY-6
Gray already got stomped by Rand Paul two years ago
Grimes already got stomped by McConnell four years ago
Yarmuth is too liberal
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 05:40:30 PM »

Grays loss is pretty impressive considering he was a gay man in kentucky.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 05:43:20 PM »

Why not Paul Jean?
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 05:44:03 PM »

George Wallace.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 05:44:04 PM »

Smiley #Populist Purple heart Beshear will win dozens of rural Appalachian counties again if nominee! Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2018, 05:46:35 PM »

Smiley #Populist Purple heart Beshear will win dozens of rural Appalachian counties again if nominee! Smiley
Ice what's your bet on elliot? I'm going Tilt r unless Adkins is the nominee then I think its lean d.
Previously I would have said likely but the manchin btfo in the coal counties made me change my mind.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 05:58:43 PM »

Smiley #Populist Purple heart Beshear will win dozens of rural Appalachian counties again if nominee! Smiley
Ice what's your bet on elliot? I'm going Tilt r unless Adkins is the nominee then I think its lean d.
Previously I would have said likely but the manchin btfo in the coal counties made me change my mind.

My "bold" prediction is that Beshear wins only three counties: Jefferson, Fayette, and Franklin. Maybe if he's lucky he'll win them by a large enough margin to not get BTFO statewide too badly, but I wouldn't count on it. Atlas will be dismayed because clearly he was supposed to sweep Appalachia just like Appalachian Heroes Mark Warner, Ted Strickland, Jack Conway, Richard Ojeda, Phil Bredesen, Amy McGrath, Alison Lundergan Grimes, Sherrod Brown, Joe Manchin, etc. #ILearnedNothingFrom2016Or2018
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 06:02:40 PM »

Smiley #Populist Purple heart Beshear will win dozens of rural Appalachian counties again if nominee! Smiley
Ice what's your bet on elliot? I'm going Tilt r unless Adkins is the nominee then I think its lean d.
Previously I would have said likely but the manchin btfo in the coal counties made me change my mind.

My "bold" prediction is that Beshear wins only three counties: Jefferson, Fayette, and Franklin. Maybe if he's lucky he'll win them by a large enough margin to not get BTFO statewide too badly, but I wouldn't count on it. Atlas will be dismayed because clearly he was supposed to sweep Appalachia just like Appalachian Heroes Mark Warner, Ted Strickland, Jack Conway, Richard Ojeda, Phil Bredesen, Amy McGrath, Alison Lundergan Grimes, Sherrod Brown, Joe Manchin, etc. #ILearnedNothingFrom2016Or2018

Also it will be interesting to see Campbell county. Its very unlikely he wins it of course but the margins should be there be interesting. I could see him getting something like 43% there.

Also LOL that ojeda btfo. the most economically populist candidate possible still loses by more than Hillary's campaign manager solely because she lives in a less trumpy and more urban district LMAO.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 06:04:54 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 06:07:06 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 06:08:35 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014


The Difference was 2014 was a GOP wave. If 2020 is a GOP wave, the GOP will carry OC again

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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 06:10:26 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014


The Difference was 2014 was a GOP wave.



if you want play that game about wave years Joe Manchin won Logan by 40 points in 2010.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 06:11:30 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014


The Difference was 2014 was a GOP wave.



if you want play that game about wave years Joe Manchin won Logan by 40 points in 2010.


How did Elliot vote this year
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 06:18:24 PM »

Shouldn't this be moved to the Gubernatorial board?
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 06:21:55 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014


The Difference was 2014 was a GOP wave.



if you want play that game about wave years Joe Manchin won Logan by 40 points in 2010.


How did Elliot vote this year


https://elect.ky.gov/results/2010-2019/Documents/2018GeneralElectionCertified.pdf

Hal rogers won elliot for the first time ever by  150 votes
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Yeah im Moving elliot to Likely R for the KY gov
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 06:22:54 PM »

Elliot County voted against McConnell in 2014
Orange county voted against Jerry Brown in 2014


The Difference was 2014 was a GOP wave.



if you want play that game about wave years Joe Manchin won Logan by 40 points in 2010.


How did Elliot vote this year
The incumbent Republican congressional representative Harold Rogers won it 54.6% to 45.4%
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/kentucky-house-district-5
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2018, 06:28:15 PM »

Rogers underperformed significantly in Elliott, considering he won almost 80% district-wide.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2018, 07:06:41 PM »

Democrats probably lose Elliott even if they win the governorship. Their winning coalition counts on Cincinnati suburbs much more than #populists. I'll post a map later.
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2018, 07:10:47 PM »

Democrats probably lose Elliott even if they win the governorship. Their winning coalition counts on Cincinnati suburbs much more than #populists. I'll post a map later.

yeah I think there is a very small chance but it now has to focus on getting those Cinci suburbs. Anyway Andy Barr would have been DOA in 2018 if Matt Bevin was on the ballot.
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2018, 07:23:09 PM »

Smiley #Populist Purple heart Beshear will win dozens of rural Appalachian counties again if nominee! Smiley
Ice what's your bet on elliot? I'm going Tilt r unless Adkins is the nominee then I think its lean d.
Previously I would have said likely but the manchin btfo in the coal counties made me change my mind.

My "bold" prediction is that Beshear wins only three counties: Jefferson, Fayette, and Franklin. Maybe if he's lucky he'll win them by a large enough margin to not get BTFO statewide too badly, but I wouldn't count on it. Atlas will be dismayed because clearly he was supposed to sweep Appalachia just like Appalachian Heroes Mark Warner, Ted Strickland, Jack Conway, Richard Ojeda, Phil Bredesen, Amy McGrath, Alison Lundergan Grimes, Sherrod Brown, Joe Manchin, etc. #ILearnedNothingFrom2016Or2018
Elliott is still dem downallot. Joke Kenneth Stepp lost it by 9. Beshear will win it.
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2018, 08:25:01 PM »

Here is 2011 KY Gov.



Here is 2015.



And here is my model for a narrow Democratic win in 2019.


They won't win with rural voters. To be sure, beating Clinton in coal country is part of the path to victory, but several coal counties still flip to Bevin. Where they beat him is in the 3rd, 4th and 6th districts, in the comparatively wealthy and well-educated districts.

This map depicts a 48.54%-48.27% Democratic win.

CD Results are
KY-01: 38.05%-59.03%
KY-02: 45.30%-51.60%
KY-03: 65.66%-31.39%
KY-04: 51.13%-45.32%

KY-05: 29.44%-67.20%
KY-06: 57.66%-38.24%


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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2018, 08:33:40 PM »

Here is 2011 KY Gov.



Here is 2015.



And here is my model for a narrow Democratic win in 2019.


They won't win with rural voters. To be sure, beating Clinton in coal country is part of the path to victory, but several coal counties still flip to Bevin. Where they beat him is in the 3rd, 4th and 6th districts, in the comparatively wealthy and well-educated districts.

This map depicts a 48.54%-48.27% Democratic win.

CD Results are
KY-01: 38.05%-59.03%
KY-02: 45.30%-51.60%
KY-03: 65.66%-31.39%
KY-04: 51.13%-45.32%

KY-05: 29.44%-67.20%
KY-06: 57.66%-38.24%

Interesting map, but considering Amy McGrath couldn't even carry KY-06 in a D+9 environment, I don't see how Beshear even wins it by 10, let alone 20.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2018, 08:35:31 PM »

Here is 2011 KY Gov.



Here is 2015.



And here is my model for a narrow Democratic win in 2019.


They won't win with rural voters. To be sure, beating Clinton in coal country is part of the path to victory, but several coal counties still flip to Bevin. Where they beat him is in the 3rd, 4th and 6th districts, in the comparatively wealthy and well-educated districts.

This map depicts a 48.54%-48.27% Democratic win.

CD Results are
KY-01: 38.05%-59.03%
KY-02: 45.30%-51.60%
KY-03: 65.66%-31.39%
KY-04: 51.13%-45.32%

KY-05: 29.44%-67.20%
KY-06: 57.66%-38.24%

Interesting maps, but considering Amy McGrath couldn't even carry KY-06 in a D+9 environment, I don't see how Beshear even wins it by 10, let alone 20.

eh I can see it.
Look at Ok 5th and Kendra Horns and Edmonsons margins
I think Matt bevin is pretty weak but this race is Safe R still
However the less rural hick counties like Ky 6th which has a decent chance to trend D in 2020 might against him by large margins.
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