CO-SEN Megathread: Cory In The House

[Bidenworth2020]

Please don't run for Senate, Hick. Please don't run for Senate.

why not? He is a bit moderate for my tastes, but on the other hand, he would clean up in a general, more so than the others running as of now. Remember that he won by 4 as Gardner won by 2.

Yes, but if we get a trifecta we need to pass a Green New Deal to save the planet. Do you think Hickenlooper would support that? For goodness' sake, he thinks McConnell can be negotiated with.

Fair. Maybe we can convince Neguse to run.

[ksd2000]

Fair. Maybe we can convince Neguse to run.

There are plenty of good candidates who can easily win who are already in the race. Romanoff is a great recruit with the necessary experience, Baer worked under Obama, etc. They are progressives and they can beat Gardner in a state like Colorado.

[DaWN]

Lol, you really think Hickenlooper would be a Lieberman or Nelson in the Senate? Sure he'd do some stupid moderate posturing but I'd bet he'd almost certainly toe the line whenever it was necessary

In any case I'd come to terms with it now. If he runs he'd demolish in the primary and then crush Gardner under his foot.

[Continential]

Please don't run for Senate, Hick. Please don't run for Senate.

why not? He is a bit moderate for my tastes, but on the other hand, he would clean up in a general, more so than the others running as of now. Remember that he won by 4 as Gardner won by 2.

Yes, but if we get a trifecta we need to pass a Green New Deal to save the planet. Do you think Hickenlooper would support that? For goodness' sake, he thinks McConnell can be negotiated with.

He should know that Mitch will BLOCK everything.

[MT Treasurer]

Lol, you really think Hickenlooper would be a Lieberman or Nelson in the Senate? Sure he'd do some stupid moderate posturing but I'd bet he'd almost certainly toe the line whenever it was necessary

Yeah, thinking Hickenlooper would vote like a blue dog in the Senate is silly. He’s pretty much a generic Democrat.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

We want Hick, we want Hick, we want Hick!

[S019]

We want Hick, we want Hick, we want Hick!

And there will be a change in my signature, if Hickenlooper runs

[SnowLabrador]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

[DaWN]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

Only on this forum would a take like this be posted unironically

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

Only on this forum would a take like this be posted unironically

Ikr, at least be objective about predictions and keep it away from politics, it's one of the most irritating things about the whole election scene for me when people bleed the two into the same pool.

[Gracile]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

Only on this forum would a take like this be posted unironically

Ikr, at least be objective about predictions and keep it away from politics, it's one of the most irritating things about the whole election scene for me when people bleed the two into the same pool.

Uh, weren't you concern trolling about various congressional races earlier this year? (Hardy being objective with your predictions)

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

Only on this forum would a take like this be posted unironically

Ikr, at least be objective about predictions and keep it away from politics, it's one of the most irritating things about the whole election scene for me when people bleed the two into the same pool.

Uh, weren't you concern trolling about various congressional races earlier this year? (Hardy being objective with your predictions)

Bruh no, my guess in the house is 219-216 dem rn.

[SnowLabrador]

I seriously think Hickenlooper might be one of the few Democrats who could lose the race. It's very clear that he doesn't want to be a Senator, and he may not be exciting enough for the base to turn out for him. Gardner will attack him aggressively for running for President and not caring about Colorado. It just might work.

Only on this forum would a take like this be posted unironically

Ikr, at least be objective about predictions and keep it away from politics, it's one of the most irritating things about the whole election scene for me when people bleed the two into the same pool.

Uh, weren't you concern trolling about various congressional races earlier this year? (Hardy being objective with your predictions)

Bruh no, my guess in the house is 219-216 dem rn.

I am not concern trolling, I'm saying what I genuinely think will happen.

[Blair]

Eh the lesson from 2016 is that in a presidential year you don't need to 'excite the base'. People like Toomey and Burr didn't win because they excited the base- they won because the top of the ticket pulled them over.

There's a long list of extremely average, and boring senators who won through the dumb luck of either running in a wave year, or a positive presidential year.

However Hickenlooper has been dumb for three reasons.

1.) He should have (like Bloomberg) realized their is no-lane, or route to winning the nomination

2.) Realizing 1 he would have been given a more clear field, and open run.

3.) Rather than running as a popular ex governor, he'll be forced to run in a primary as someone who's on record A.) Not wanting the job B.) Bashing extremely popular policy proposals like Medicare for all/Green New Deal.

He now faces a primary against well funded opponents, who have two big sticks to beat him over the head with. However people are stupid to suggest that he's DOA; sometimes this stuff very rarely matters in the grand scheme of stuff (see Rubio 2016)

[beesley]

I'm saying what I genuinely think will happen.

I can imagine some tenuous logical chain of reasoning involving Ted Strickland, but I really don't think Hickenlooper is so weak a candidate he would lose. He'd probably not do as well as everyone says though.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

I'm saying what I genuinely think will happen.

I can imagine some tenuous logical chain of reasoning involving Ted Strickland, but I really don't think Hickenlooper is so weak a candidate he would lose. He'd probably not do as well as everyone says though.

Dude SnowLab is a urine-soaked bed in human form. Fretting about 9/1-odds D races is his specialty.

Hickenlooper would win this race by more than 5 but I could see him being held to something like 6 points. I can see leftist enthusiasm for him being in the basement (given his campaign) but with the frenzy around Trump D turnout (by which I mean ballot mail-ins) will be juiced enough that it won't really put him in danger.

Real interesting question is whether or not he tries to legislate like Synema/Manchin or if he is more like Bennet, i.e., not a maverick for maverick's sake. I think it's more likely that because he'll be in a safe seat he'd be less showy about disavowing sOcIaLisM and would vote with the caucus nearly all the time. But he'd definitely still not vote for a program like M4A if a Warren/Sanders administration ever had a trifecta (then again there are a lot of other Senators who would do the same so it's not like he'd be unique in that regard).

[Strong Candidate]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/08/hickenlooper-run-for-senate-1648679

Hickenlooper faces buzz saw if he drops out to run for Senate

John Hickenlooper cracked the door open to a potential Senate bid last week — but it looks like many Democrats back home in Colorado have moved on.

The former two-term governor would have scared off potential rivals earlier this year, but it’s doubtful now that he could clear the field of Democratic challengers who’ve been in the trenches for months already.

"Nearly a dozen Democrats are running in Colorado, which is seen as the party’s best opportunity to flip a GOP-held seat, and there is a top tier of roughly five candidates. They’ve spent months courting supporters and raising money, and few would immediately step aside for Hickenlooper, according to conversations with several candidates, aides and a half-dozen Democratic operatives in the state.

[Xing]

Hickenlooper probably wouldn't do much better or worse than another Democrat, but Democrats can do better than him, even if he wouldn't vote like Manchin.

[UncleSam]

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/08/hickenlooper-run-for-senate-1648679

Hickenlooper faces buzz saw if he drops out to run for Senate

"John Hickenlooper cracked the door open to a potential Senate bid last week — but it looks like many Democrats back home in Colorado have moved on.

The former two-term governor would have scared off potential rivals earlier this year, but it’s doubtful now that he could clear the field of Democratic challengers who’ve been in the trenches for months already.

Nearly a dozen Democrats are running in Colorado, which is seen as the party’s best opportunity to flip a GOP-held seat, and there is a top tier of roughly five candidates. They’ve spent months courting supporters and raising money, and few would immediately step aside for Hickenlooper, according to conversations with several candidates, aides and a half-dozen Democratic operatives in the state."

Of course they wouldn’t just step aside, but he would be a prohibitive favorite. He’s kind of helped by the fact it is a clown car of a primary with no clear front-runner - he doesn’t have any cash disadvantage or campaign infrastructure disadvantage to overcome, and while a lot (especially on the left of the primary electorate) will be thoroughly unenthused by his entry, they lack any clear alternative standard-bearer to rally around. I would hardly refer to the current primary as a ‘buzz saw’.

[Theodore]

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1161137533142609925?s=19


Hickenlooper with a commanding lead

[Zaybay]

It really is just up to Hickenlooper if he wants the senate seat or not. It genuinely seems that he doesnt actually want to be senator, but the prospect must be tantalizing.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1161390432267513861

[ksd2000]

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1161390432267513861

NO. UGH. We need Romanoff!!

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1161390432267513861

NO. UGH. We need Romanoff!!

Is the reason many folks here (and I presume a good number of lefties in Colorado) don't like the idea of Hick running for Senate because of his 'moderate' image? As far as I knew, I thought he did a good job as Governor. Yes, he's definitely not an uber liberal and his political image seems to be more in the moderate mold. But, he doesn't seem like a Joe Lieberman (ugh) and similar to Michael Bennett in that he seems like someone who'd be popular and represent Colorado in the Senate well, as well as being a reliable liberal vote in the Senate.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1161390432267513861

NO. UGH. We need Romanoff!!

Griswold deciding not to enter basically confirmed it, and the push polls today were the icing on the cake. All that is left is the formal announcement and primary and GE victories.

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1161390432267513861

NO. UGH. We need Romanoff!!

Is the reason many folks here (and I presume lefties in Colorado) don't like the idea of Hick running for Senate because of his 'moderate' image? As far as I knew, I thought he did a good job as Governor. Yes, he's definitely not an uber liberal and his political image seems to be more in the moderate mold. But, he doesn't seem like a Joe Lieberman (ugh) and similar to Michael Bennett in that he seems like someone who'd be popular and fit Colorado in the Senate well.

Yes, apparently, Hickenlooper had a private chat with Bennett recently. The two are more or less the same, and Bennett is no Republican in Sheeps clothing. Hick just ran to the right Presidentially because it was the available lane.