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« Reply #325 on: August 15, 2019, 12:21:37 AM »

We know Hickenlooper wont be like Manchin. That's not the point. I want the overton window to shift and we cant do that if we are letting people like Hickenlooperwin in Safe D states like Colorado
Colorado is not a safe D state. Clinton won by 5 as she won nationally by 2 (D+3). Polish won by 11 as the national environment was D +8 (another case of D+3). It is a democratic leaning state particularly ill suited for the Trump era. The state is a lean democratic state, but I don’t expect Gardner to win because of the national environment.
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« Reply #326 on: August 15, 2019, 12:22:49 AM »

We know Hickenlooper wont be like Manchin. That's not the point. I want the overton window to shift and we cant do that if we are letting people like Hickenlooperwin in Safe D states like Colorado
Colorado is not a safe D state. Clinton won by 5 as she won nationally by 2 (D+3). Polish won by 11 as the national environment was D +8 (another case of D+3). It is a democratic leaning state particularly ill suited for the Trump era. The state is a lean democratic state, but I don’t expect Gardner to win because of the national environment.

But he will only lose by a fraction of a point to Hick because he is so strong right?
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« Reply #327 on: August 15, 2019, 02:19:24 AM »

Colorado is not a safe D state. Clinton won by 5 as she won nationally by 2 (D+3). Polish won by 11 as the national environment was D +8 (another case of D+3).

Why do count like this?
This way of counting almost ensures that the majority of states will trend against the winner of the popular vote.

It just looks like a desperate way of making Dem states appear less blue.
Colorado is blue now, Clinton's performance is pretty much the Dem floor outside of Cali/NY.
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« Reply #328 on: August 15, 2019, 08:44:33 AM »

I hope Hickenlooper doesn't run. Don't get me wrong, he's pretty fine and certainly no Fake Dem, but the senate needs more diversity. CO is winnable for any standard Dem, we don't need another nearly 70 year old white dude.
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« Reply #329 on: August 15, 2019, 09:31:18 AM »

If Hickenlooper gets in the GOP should triage the seat.
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« Reply #330 on: August 15, 2019, 12:27:46 PM »



Hick's out for President. Says he's 'considering' the Senate...read between the lines there...
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« Reply #331 on: August 15, 2019, 12:29:16 PM »

If Hickenlooper gets in the GOP should triage the seat.
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« Reply #332 on: August 15, 2019, 01:50:30 PM »

Please run for senate, Hick! And keep that amazing logo. I wonder whether some of the other contenders for the Democratic nomination will then drop out?

I hope Hickenlooper doesn't run. Don't get me wrong, he's pretty fine and certainly no Fake Dem, but the senate needs more diversity. CO is winnable for any standard Dem, we don't need another nearly 70 year old white dude.

Isn't this the very definition of identity politics? I think he would make an excellent senator who has a track record as governor, mayor and businessman. If more people like him are elected to congress, from both sides, a lot more stuff would get done. Even though legislatures and cabinets should somewhat look like the constituents they represent, I more care about competence, leadership, honor and the right kind of temperament and experience. I see the Hick as absolutely qualified for the seat and with an excellent chance to win in November 2020.
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« Reply #333 on: August 16, 2019, 01:43:26 AM »

Please run for senate, Hick! And keep that amazing logo. I wonder whether some of the other contenders for the Democratic nomination will then drop out?

I hope Hickenlooper doesn't run. Don't get me wrong, he's pretty fine and certainly no Fake Dem, but the senate needs more diversity. CO is winnable for any standard Dem, we don't need another nearly 70 year old white dude.

Isn't this the very definition of identity politics? I think he would make an excellent senator who has a track record as governor, mayor and businessman. If more people like him are elected to congress, from both sides, a lot more stuff would get done. Even though legislatures and cabinets should somewhat look like the constituents they represent, I more care about competence, leadership, honor and the right kind of temperament and experience. I see the Hick as absolutely qualified for the seat and with an excellent chance to win in November 2020.

"Identity politics" is a right-wing talkingpoint to divide people up. And Mr. Drumpf is the main proponent if identity politics. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Hickenlooper and would strongly support him if nominated to defeat Gardner, but I believe the institutions, including senate, should at least to a degree look like America. And America is not 3/4 old white dudes. I know that you can't have exactly 50 women, 50 men, about 13 blacks and a third of latinos all at the same time in the chamber. But when we have a senate seat that much likely to flip Dem, why do we need another old white dude?

Btw, I agree with most posters his campaign logo is very cool.
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« Reply #334 on: August 16, 2019, 12:06:11 PM »

Bennet kinda endorses hickenlooper for senate
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/16/bennet-john-hickenlooper-senate-1466333
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« Reply #335 on: August 21, 2019, 11:53:06 PM »

https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2019/08/21/john-hickenlooper-senate-cory-gardner/ Hickenlooper has apparently decided to run for Senate, sources say.
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« Reply #336 on: August 22, 2019, 05:59:23 AM »

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« Reply #337 on: August 22, 2019, 06:02:32 AM »

Ugh.
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« Reply #338 on: August 22, 2019, 06:06:33 AM »

Congratulations Senator Hickenlooper, may you be further left than what you campaign on!
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« Reply #339 on: August 22, 2019, 06:08:58 AM »

Congratulations Senator Hickenlooper, may you be further left than what you campaign on!
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« Reply #340 on: August 22, 2019, 06:23:28 AM »

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« Reply #341 on: August 22, 2019, 06:26:20 AM »

Well I'm glad I won't have to spend the next 18 months arguing with anyone over this race because everyone will just accept its Safe D and move on. Not the biggest fan of Hick but he'll almost certainly vote like a Generic D and toe the party line when necessary so whatever.
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« Reply #342 on: August 22, 2019, 06:51:18 AM »

Let's hope that Bullock follows Hickenlooper's lead.
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« Reply #343 on: August 22, 2019, 06:55:49 AM »

D+1
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« Reply #344 on: August 22, 2019, 06:57:29 AM »

I suppose the various times he said he didn't want to be in the Senate will be used in ads against him and could hurt his stance.

However, there is little doubt Gardner starts as the underdog here.
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« Reply #345 on: August 22, 2019, 07:00:20 AM »

Let's hope that Bullock follows Hickenlooper's lead.
Even if Bullock changes his mind he already torpedoed his own chances there by chasing his overblown ego
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« Reply #346 on: August 22, 2019, 07:18:42 AM »

I want to see the normally reluctant Cook and Sabato move CO-Sen to lean D pickup 15 months out from the election, because TBH, there is enough evidence there even for them that Hick is on his way to a pickup.
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« Reply #347 on: August 22, 2019, 07:36:20 AM »

Disgusting.
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« Reply #348 on: August 22, 2019, 08:04:20 AM »

Lean D for now. 4-5 point win for Hickenlooper.
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« Reply #349 on: August 22, 2019, 08:07:15 AM »

"I've always said Washington was a lousy place for a guy like me who wants to get things done..."

What a great omen from his campaign video. Ugh.
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