Biden condemns ICC for requesting an arrest warrant for Netanyahu

[Comrade Funk]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

[Brittain33]

He went a bit further than just defending Netanyahu:

“What’s happening is not genocide. We reject that,” Biden said during a speech in the Rose Garden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/20/biden-gaza-not-genocide-israel-00159020

With every foot in mouth quote he makes on this matter, he loses yet more Muslim and youth votes and brings us one step closer to a second Trump term. He could simply make neutral non-comments or stay silent. But he's damaged perhaps beyond repair his chances with segments of the reliably Democratic voting bloc, and instead of trying to back out of the hole, he just seems to be determined to dig himself deeper.

I trust Biden knows the politics of this well (accurately rebutting claims of genocide isn’t “foot in mouth” but a clear statement of administration policy) and polls show only a tiny percentage of young Democratic voters are moving against Biden on this issue. Cost of living is a much bigger factor for them AND Biden is with the majority of Americans in rejecting Holocaust appropriation by leftist activists here, e.g. people ludicrously claiming that Gaza was just like the Warsaw Ghetto before Oct. 7 and Israelis were Nazis.

The electoral college tends to be determined by relatively tiny percentages of voters in a handful of states.

…which cuts both ways. There are at least as many Zionist Democrats who Biden would lose in swing states if he went full river-to-the-sea, you-can’t-hide-I-charge-you-with-genocide as some people want.

In the House, we’ve seen the limits of what 1-2% of members who feel very strongly about their outlier views can accomplish even in an almost evenly split chamber.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Biden needs to stop doing this stupid flip-flopping sh*t. This is partially why (besides his age), many people don't like him.

He should have said absolutely nothing. F**k Satanyahu (and Hamas).

[pppolitics]

Biden needs to stop doing this stupid flip-flopping sh*t. This is partially why (besides his age), many people don't like him.

He should have said absolutely nothing. F**k Satanyahu (and Hamas).

Biden's Gaza problem is just an extension of his age problem.

If you look at Democrats 65+, you see that Biden fits right in.

[Devils30]

Biden needs to stop doing this stupid flip-flopping sh*t. This is partially why (besides his age), many people don't like him.

He should have said absolutely nothing. F**k Satanyahu (and Hamas).

Biden's Gaza problem is just an extension of his age problem.

If you look at Democrats 65+, you see that Biden fits right in.

But Biden is trying to win the 2024 election, not some hypothetical 2052 election where the issues will be who knows what.

And 18-29 Dems are a true outlier on Palestinian support. Even overall the 18-29 group has a lot of "sympathize with both/don't care" voters on this issue.

[HisGrace]

He went a bit further than just defending Netanyahu:

“What’s happening is not genocide. We reject that,” Biden said during a speech in the Rose Garden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/20/biden-gaza-not-genocide-israel-00159020

Of course everyone mad at Biden for stating the obvious. He's fortunately not willing to spew BS just to meme with the tiktok kids.

the 'tiktok kids' aka, the youth vote. If turnout is low, and Trump wins a second term, it'll be because he did all he could to piss off 'the tiktok kids' with this issue.

If Biden loses it's because he didn't do well enough with WWC and blacks in PA/Mich/Wisconsin and Hispanics in the SW. The blue hair brigade protesting this stuff is a microscopic group of people who just get tons of media attention because they never shut up and do dumb antics like occupying buildings. They're not even close to a significant constituency and most of them weren't going to vote for Biden anyway even before all this. Dems need to ignore people like this and run to the middle.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

[HisGrace]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

[HisGrace]

Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

What "assist"? The ICC was never going to put out an arrest warrant for Putin or Xi regardless of what Biden did here because they don't have the same flaming darts hatred for Russia or China that they do for Israel even with Russia and China's actions being many orders of magnitudes worse. Hmm, I wonder why that could be? As I said before they have no standards, this is just emotional bias.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

What "assist"? The ICC was never going to put out an arrest warrant for Putin or Xi regardless of what Biden did here because they don't have the same flaming darts hatred for Russia or China that they do for Israel even with Russia and China's actions being many orders of magnitudes worse. Hmm, I wonder why that could be? As I said before they have no standards, this is just emotional bias.

ICC already put out an arrest warrant for Putin.

[Rubensim]

Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

What "assist"? The ICC was never going to put out an arrest warrant for Putin or Xi regardless of what Biden did here because they don't have the same flaming darts hatred for Russia or China that they do for Israel even with Russia and China's actions being many orders of magnitudes worse. Hmm, I wonder why that could be? As I said before they have no standards, this is just emotional bias.

Uhm hisgrace? have you read the news this year because the ICC have put a warrant on putin since like what last year ago? but it being ignored with south africa actually boasting about ignoring it so it seem like the global south want a rule for thee but not for me moment.

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Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

What "assist"? The ICC was never going to put out an arrest warrant for Putin or Xi regardless of what Biden did here because they don't have the same flaming darts hatred for Russia or China that they do for Israel even with Russia and China's actions being many orders of magnitudes worse. Hmm, I wonder why that could be? As I said before they have no standards, this is just emotional bias.

ICC already put out an arrest warrant for Putin.

And also Gaddafi.

[pppolitics]

Biden needs to stop doing this stupid flip-flopping sh*t. This is partially why (besides his age), many people don't like him.

He should have said absolutely nothing. F**k Satanyahu (and Hamas).

Biden's Gaza problem is just an extension of his age problem.

If you look at Democrats 65+, you see that Biden fits right in.

But Biden is trying to win the 2024 election, not some hypothetical 2052 election where the issues will be who knows what.

And 18-29 Dems are a true outlier on Palestinian support. Even overall the 18-29 group has a lot of "sympathize with both/don't care" voters on this issue.

Democrats 18-29 and 30-49 sympathize more with Palestinian people

Democrats 50-64 are split even

Only Democrats 65+ sympathize more with Israeli people

[pppolitics]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

[patzer]

The Hague Invasion Act authorizes the US president to use any means necessary to prevent the ICC from putting politicians from major US-allied countries, including Israel, on trial.

Really not sure why Biden's reaction would come as a surprise to anyone. If he didn't condemn the ICC here, it would destroy all credibility the US has as being willing to defend its allies.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Great job undermining international law to protect a corrupt piece of sh*t widely reviled in his own country. I'm sure Putin, Xi, and all the other thugs who've been hard at work undoing the liberal international order will appreciate the assist.

An ICC arrest warrant would do nothing to deter Putin or Xi

[President Johnson]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

The Hague Invasion Act authorizes the US president to use any means necessary to prevent the ICC from putting politicians from major US-allied countries, including Israel, on trial.

Really not sure why Biden's reaction would come as a surprise to anyone. If he didn't condemn the ICC here, it would destroy all credibility the US has as being willing to defend its allies.

Thank you for citing the policy in question so I could research it. The law was passed in 2002 and signed by Bush. Biden voted for it, so this actually isn't a flip-flop. Interestingly, more Republican senators opposed it than Democrats and even progressives like Wellstone voted for it.

I agree with the ICC's decisions, but this isn't going anywhere and Biden would have everything to lose and nothing to gain in not condemning it. Unfortunately, the only way tyrants face consequences for their actions is by being from a country too weak to retaliate.

[pppolitics]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

Hamas, which has no tank, no plane, no real army isn't going to "wipe Israel off the map".

[President Johnson]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

Hamas, which has no tank, no plane, no real army isn't going to "wipe Israel off the map".

That's why wrote "would" and "if". If they had the same capabilities as Israel, or if the situation was reversed, there would be nothing left.

[Brittain33]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

Hamas, which has no tank, no plane, no real army isn't going to "wipe Israel off the map".

October 7 was genocide by any definition pro-Palestinian people have used to justify calling the current war with Hamas a genocide, and then some. Hamas killed or kidnapped literally every civilian they encountered.

[President Johnson]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

Hamas, which has no tank, no plane, no real army isn't going to "wipe Israel off the map".

October 7 was genocide by any definition pro-Palestinian people have used to justify calling the current war with Hamas a genocide, and then some. Hamas killed or kidnapped literally every civilian they encountered.

I would always be careful with the "genocide" term, because strictly speaking, the intent is a major key here. As for Israel, some of their military actions are certainly over the top and human aid is insufficient in many places (and that is rightfully criticized, but criticism should only about the war conduct and not turn into blatant anti-semitism). You can argue some actions are war crimes, though I would always remind people Hamas is using civilians as human shields. Genocides by clear definition were Rwanda or what the so-called Islamic state did in occupied territories since 2014.

[HisGrace]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

It's what would happen if Hamas got its will and wipe Israel off the map.

Hamas, which has no tank, no plane, no real army isn't going to "wipe Israel off the map".

This is one of the left's big fallacies, you're judging people based on what they have the theoretical capacity to do and not on their actual intentions. Israel has the capacity to kill every living thing in Gaza a very short time frame, the fact that they haven't done that proves that that's not what their intentions are. Hamas doesn't have the capacity to do that in Israel, but it's clearly what their intention is based on their own statements, so they are clearly the wrong side in this conflict.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

There's zero leadership or courage in this administration. What a massive disappointment.

There is not a genocide, that's a definitively false statement and anyone who says otherwise either doesn't know what genocide is or doesn't know what's actually going on in this war. Biden telling the truth and not just telling a certain segment of people what they want to hear takes courage.

Do you even know what genocide is?

Do you?

[All Along The Watchtower]

Israel has the capacity to kill every living thing in Gaza a very short time frame, the fact that they haven't done that proves that that's not what their intentions are.

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part,a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

http://www.preventgenocide.org/law/convention/text.htm