Gubernatorial Amendment (Amendment at Vote)

[minionofmidas]

Amendment (offered as friendly)

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This is basically what I meant to do the first time. I've no idea where that "then" came from. I know where the error came from regarding the lower corrections - I was somehow under the impression that the timeframe for consenting to be a week was enshrined elsewhere in the text.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Shouldn't it say "or the Council of Governors?"

[minionofmidas]

     Shouldn't it say "or the Council of Governors?"

Eh - no. If the President vetoes it and the Council of Governors is inactive, it shouldn't become law regardless.
Still, the current phrasing leaves some to be desired as well when I think about it now.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Shouldn't it say "or the Council of Governors?"

Eh - no. If the President vetoes it and the Council of Governors is inactive, it shouldn't become law regardless.
Still, the current phrasing leaves some to be desired as well when I think about it now.

     That's what I'm saying; if you make it "or," then if either the President or the Council vetoes it then it will be returned to the Senate. With "and," the President & the Council both need to veto it (if I understand it correctly).

[minionofmidas]

     Shouldn't it say "or the Council of Governors?"

Eh - no. If the President vetoes it and the Council of Governors is inactive, it shouldn't become law regardless.
Still, the current phrasing leaves some to be desired as well when I think about it now.

     That's what I'm saying; if you make it "or," then if either the President or the Council vetoes it then it will be returned to the Senate. With "and," the President & the Council both need to veto it (if I understand it correctly).

If you make it "or" then if either of them does nothing, even if the other vetoes it, the bill passes.

If you make it "and" then it's not clear what happens if only one of them does nothing.

"For any Bill or Resolution to pass the Senate, it shall have gained a majority in a valid vote. Before the Bill or Resolution becomes Law, it shall be presented to the Council of Governors and then to the President of the Republic of Atlasia, unless it be concerning the rules for the proceedings of the Senate. If both approve, the President shall sign it, and it shall become Law. If the President does not approve, he shall return the Bill with his objections to the Senate, and it shall not become Law. If the Council of Governors does not approve, they shall return the Bill with their objections to the Senate, and it shall not become Law. Upon reconsidering the Bill, if the Senate shall approve the legislation by two-thirds of its number, it shall become Law. If a Bill is not returned to the Senate by the President or the Council of Governors within seven days after it shall have been presented to him them, they shall be considered to have approved of the legislation. "

This work? Offered as friendly, earlier amendment withdrawn.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Amendment accepted as friendly.

[minionofmidas]

O yah, senators have 24 hours to object.

[Meeker]

Hearing no objections, the amendment is adopted.

[minionofmidas]

That is indeed correct.

[Хahar 🤔]

Can we see the current text?

[minionofmidas]

In a minute. I will then also open the final vote.

[Јas]

I move that the following amendment be added to the text:

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[minionofmidas]

Current version:

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I never got around to doing this:

I'll have more amendments later tomorrow. Which won't be intended as friendly but will try to square this bill with the AtlaMinh agenda.

I see there's suddenly an amendment on the floor. Hold your horses everybody, debate had stopped for days and days but nobody had moved for the final vote yet - I'll take a quick look at the OSPR, but I think debate is open still (ie we'll vote on Jas' amendment. Which of course is really my old amendment). Are these to be Sections 5 - 8, Jas?

[Јas]

I see there's suddenly an amendment on the floor. Hold your horses everybody, debate had stopped for days and days but nobody had moved for the final vote yet - I'll take a quick look at the OSPR, but I think debate is open still (ie we'll vote on Jas' amendment. Which of course is really my old amendment). Are these to be Sections 5 - 8, Jas?

Indeed so.

[minionofmidas]

Checked. The amendment is just fine. Debate was still open.

[Јas]

[minionofmidas]

Right. The vote is on the amendment.

To add the following sections:

5. Article I, Section 1, Clause 2 shall be amended to read as follows: No person shall be a Senator who has not attained a hundred or more posts.

6. Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 shall be amended to read as follows: The Senate shall be divided into two classes: Class A and Class B, both of which shall be elected by a form of proportional representation.

7. Article I, Section 4, Clause 4 shall be amended to read as follows: If a vacancy shall occur in any Senate seat, then a special election shall be called to fill the remainder of the vacant term within one week of the vacancy occurring.

8. Article I, Section 4, Clause 5 shall be amended to read as follows: However, if a vacancy shall occur less than two weeks before the end of the term in question, then no special election shall be necessary.

Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

Aye.

[Јas]

Aye

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Abstain

[HappyWarrior]

Abstain

[Bacon King]

abstain

[AndrewTX]

aye

[minionofmidas]

abstain

Abstain

     Abstain

Gee guys, you did read the small print did you?

Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

Vote count:

Aye 3 (Lewis, Jas, Andrew)
abstain 3 (PiT, Happy, Bacon)
yet to vote 4 (Al, Dwtl, Torie, Sensei)

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Maybe I didn't want to vote nay.

[minionofmidas]

     Maybe I didn't want to vote nay.

Maybe.