Democratic New York Primary results thread (polls close at 9pm ET)

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think we need to keep remembering very closed primary. I'm not sure this data is telling us much at all.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Considering these results are almost exclusively NYC, I'm actually thinking these results are pretty bad for Clinton. (standard warnings about early exits apply)

We know it's NYC?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think we need to keep remembering very closed primary. I'm not sure this data is telling us much at all.

Is there a reason why exit polls would be more reliable in an open primary than a closed primary?

Not reliable - but considering the likely make up of this electorate I don't think we can put as much stock in the "well in xx they answered xxx, so it must mean xx" - that's what I mean.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

@ryangrim says 54-46 Clinton in exits

He's a HuffPost reporter that's posted some pretty accurate leaked exits in the past few contests

Great, now Wulfric's going to have a field day.

Thankfully - these are early exits.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

@ryangrim says 54-46 Clinton in exits

He's a HuffPost reporter that's posted some pretty accurate leaked exits in the past few contests

I dont know, his Wisconsin top line leak was way off.

He had:
Sanders 53 (actual 56)
Clinton 46 (43)

Cruz 47 (48)
Trump 35 (35)
Kasich 15 (14)

Not way off at all.  I think these leaks are the actual exit poll top-lines

Well to be fair working out a 7 point margin and it ends up nearly doubling isn't exactly "missed it by that much"

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

My gay cousin and his husband both voted for Bernie and Saratoga.

Good for them.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

If that 46% figure is true, it would be a very impressive result for Bernie.  Not enough to get him nominated, of course, but impressive nonetheless.

And the s*** will drag on and get uglier and uglier... such joy.

Let's be honest, the Sanders campaign signaled anything over 40% they would consider a moral victory. So there's almost no chance of some kind of "victory" element for him tonight.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

So we're looking at something roughly between 52-48 and 56-44?

We have no idea yet since these exit polls are pretty unreliable.

Yup - none at all.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

r/SandersForPresident is in full teenager-who's-just-been-broken-up-with-for-the-first-time mode.

This isn't a shock... anyone who thought that he could actually WIN kind of deserves this kind of heartbreak.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

For God's sake... why is Sanders moving on to PA already?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

r/SandersForPresident is in full teenager-who's-just-been-broken-up-with-for-the-first-time mode.

Haha, that bad?

Basically a bunch of people railing against voter disenfranchisement while simultaneously discussing how to commit fraud so independents can vote.

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So, the usual Sandernista response to losing... it's a conspiracy.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Drudge is reporting 54-46 Clinton.

Probably the same top-line calculations as the HuffPost

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'm waiting.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'm waiting.

edgy

I think considering the past track record of exit polling, might be good to wait. Just a thought, I know Atlas loves to react.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

These results are NOT consistent with a 4 point race...

THIS is exactly why I wait when the exits don't make sense.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Looking strong for Hillary at the moment but when upper state NY comes in, things might get closer to the exit polls.

How much would Sanders have to dominate to overcome NYC? There is no way the numbers right now are reflecting a 52-48 race.

I think this is why the race is listed as too early, the exits aren't matching the precinct numbers.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Looking at Buffalo and Rochester... I'd almost say Sanders is under-performing.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

And Bernie said he was going to win NY...

This is Ohio all over again...

Exits updated - suggesting about 56% for Clinton. Still not sure given that I do think Sanders is under-performing upstate...  

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

And Bernie said he was going to win NY...

This is Ohio all over again...

Exits updated - suggesting about 56% for Clinton. Still not sure given that I do think Sanders is under-performing upstate... 

Yet over-performing in Western New York.

Maybe I misjudged the strategy, but he was spending a LOT of time in the Buffalo area.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Is there any way the NYC/Long Island area can swing it back to 60%+ Clinton?

There's still a bit left, once upstate starts to wrap up... possible, but unlikely.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

"Is she charging for this speech or is this a freebie?" - Jimmy Dore on TYT

HAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

These delusions need to be suffocated.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Looks like i was correct when i said Sanders would win if it was an open primary.

ROFL

Considering she won Democrats 61-39... going by other open races, she still would have won.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Oh Lord, MSNBC is letting Weaver explain how the campaign can still win.

Stop it. This is pathetic.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

Might be good if the campaign stops floating these convention shenanigans... What the candidate does matters, and Sanders whole approach needs to change, this is not just about Clinton.  

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

more speeches like this and she'll easily get my support in November.

Yes please, we will need every vote we can get.

Hillary does, and this is why Clinton supporters who attack Sanders and his supporters should think twice. Hillary's not winning without Sanders supporters. She won't have to work for my vote, but it's clear that there are some Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning Independents who aren't sold on her yet.

Might be good if the campaign stops floating these convention shenanigans... What the candidate does matters, and Sanders whole approach needs to change, this is not just about Clinton.  

Sanders isn't going to take it to the convention if he loses the pledged delegate count, he's already said as much. He's not going to tell his committed supporters in states like CA that it's over before they have a chance to vote.

That wasn't the only example - but unity after this is as much down to Sanders as it is to Clinton. He needs to stop going negative on Clinton, and focus on his message and his positive tone. He can do well without needing to tear her down. He needs to send the message to his supporters once its clear, that Clinton is not only 'acceptable' and 'preferable' but his choice.