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« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2016, 06:03:34 PM »

@ryangrim says 54-46 Clinton in exits

He's a HuffPost reporter that's posted some pretty accurate leaked exits in the past few contests

I dont know, his Wisconsin top line leak was way off.

He had:
Sanders 53 (actual 56)
Clinton 46 (43)

Cruz 47 (48)
Trump 35 (35)
Kasich 15 (14)

Not way off at all.  I think these leaks are the actual exit poll top-lines


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« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2016, 06:03:37 PM »


Well, given that we also have this:



that points to the topline #s being very close between the two candidates, since the overall "energized" / "divided" party #s are close to being halfway between the Clinton and Sanders #s.


Actually, I just did some algebra on this.  Unfortunately, because of rounding, this isn't very precise, but I'd estimate a topline Clinton lead of ~10 points.
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« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2016, 06:04:02 PM »

@ryangrim says 54-46 Clinton in exits

He's a HuffPost reporter that's posted some pretty accurate leaked exits in the past few contests

I dont know, his Wisconsin top line leak was way off.

He had:
Sanders 53 (actual 56)
Clinton 46 (43)

Cruz 47 (48)
Trump 35 (35)
Kasich 15 (14)

Not way off at all.  I think these leaks are the actual exit poll top-lines


Plus the exit polls update throughout the night, so the initial toplines may have been matching.
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« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2016, 06:05:28 PM »

@ryangrim says 54-46 Clinton in exits

He's a HuffPost reporter that's posted some pretty accurate leaked exits in the past few contests

I dont know, his Wisconsin top line leak was way off.

He had:
Sanders 53 (actual 56)
Clinton 46 (43)

Cruz 47 (48)
Trump 35 (35)
Kasich 15 (14)

Not way off at all.  I think these leaks are the actual exit poll top-lines


Well to be fair working out a 7 point margin and it ends up nearly doubling isn't exactly "missed it by that much"
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« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2016, 06:10:52 PM »

My gay cousin and his husband both voted for Bernie and Saratoga.
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« Reply #130 on: April 19, 2016, 06:12:39 PM »

My gay cousin and his husband both voted for Bernie and Saratoga.

Good for them.
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« Reply #131 on: April 19, 2016, 06:15:40 PM »


Well, given that we also have this:



that points to the topline #s being very close between the two candidates, since the overall "energized" / "divided" party #s are close to being halfway between the Clinton and Sanders #s.


Actually, I just did some algebra on this.  Unfortunately, because of rounding, this isn't very precise, but I'd estimate a topline Clinton lead of ~10 points.

That's around what this gives as well, if I did my math right.

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« Reply #132 on: April 19, 2016, 06:31:07 PM »

That actually isn't too shabby for Sanders, he kept her below 10 points in her homestate.
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« Reply #133 on: April 19, 2016, 06:32:03 PM »

That actually isn't too shabby for Sanders, he kept her below 10 points in her homestate.

If that's the actual result, sure. Big if.
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« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2016, 06:33:41 PM »

That actually isn't too shabby for Sanders, he kept her below 10 points in her homestate.

If that's the actual result, sure. Big if.

No, this is a big If
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« Reply #135 on: April 19, 2016, 06:38:15 PM »

That actually isn't too shabby for Sanders, he kept her below 10 points in her homestate.

If that's the actual result, sure. Big if.
That wouldn't be too bad, but 8-10 point win is still plus 24-30 delegates for her. If the goal is to win the nomination, he needed to actually beat her. Getting a little late for morale victories and expectations game, especially since he outspent her 2 to 1 in New York.
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« Reply #136 on: April 19, 2016, 06:39:08 PM »

It would be an underwhelming victory, but a victory nonetheless.
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« Reply #137 on: April 19, 2016, 06:39:40 PM »

That actually isn't too shabby for Sanders, he kept her below 10 points in her homestate.

If that's the actual result, sure. Big if.
That wouldn't be too bad, but 8-10 point win is still plus 24-30 delegates for her. If the goal is to win the nomination, he needed to actually beat her. Getting a little late for morale victories and expectations game, especially since he outspent her 2 to 1 in New York.

CNN has been spinning that its very bad for her below 10 perception wise
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« Reply #138 on: April 19, 2016, 06:41:47 PM »

I have the feeling New York will set some sort of record for slow reporting.
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« Reply #139 on: April 19, 2016, 06:42:56 PM »

I've considered the fight for the nomination to be over for a while now but it would definitely be nice to see Sanders not completely blown out of the water tonight.
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« Reply #140 on: April 19, 2016, 06:49:54 PM »

If that 46% figure is true, it would be a very impressive result for Bernie.  Not enough to get him nominated, of course, but impressive nonetheless.
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« Reply #141 on: April 19, 2016, 06:51:18 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2016, 06:53:57 PM by Fmr President & Senator Polnut »

If that 46% figure is true, it would be a very impressive result for Bernie.  Not enough to get him nominated, of course, but impressive nonetheless.

And the s*** will drag on and get uglier and uglier... such joy.

Let's be honest, the Sanders campaign signaled anything over 40% they would consider a moral victory. So there's almost no chance of some kind of "victory" element for him tonight.
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« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2016, 06:55:20 PM »

Considering the media pumped up Bernie as a NY homeboy (and the campaign wholeheartedly embraced it), I'm very skeptical of the "but Hillary's homestate!" excuse.
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« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2016, 06:56:55 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2016, 06:59:15 PM by marty »

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« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2016, 06:58:10 PM »

leaked exit poll 52-48 clinton according to twitter reports

Could you shoot us some links to that? I'm curious where it's coming from.
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« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2016, 06:58:52 PM »

on further review, it's BS coming from a bernie troll on twitter.
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« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2016, 06:59:04 PM »

Leaked exit polls show Sanders at 65%.
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« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2016, 06:59:08 PM »

Chris Matthews should just work for the Clinton campaign already.
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« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2016, 06:59:47 PM »

So we're looking at something roughly between 52-48 and 56-44?
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« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2016, 07:01:04 PM »

So we're looking at something roughly between 52-48 and 56-44?

We have no idea yet since these exit polls are pretty unreliable.
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