Census Bureau of Atlasia: RG Fritz

[Fritz]

Census Atlasia
January 28, 2014

Region	Fed	Labor	PRO	CMP	DR	other	ind	Total
Mideast	23	7	3	4	2	3	7	49
Northeast	7	8	5	0	3	5	11	39
Midwest	5	13	2	2	0	2	4	28
IDS	12	3	3	1	3	1	4	27
Pacific	3	9	6	2	0	3	3	26
Total	50	40	19	9	8	14	29	169

[Adam Griffin]

Out of curiosity, why am I listed as not being able to change regions until July? It was my impression from some dialogue on the broader issue many moons ago that everyone is entitled to one free move that does not expire. Seeing as how I rejoined without moving in the past six months, I don't think there is any restriction on my residency unless I had moved to a second region after re-joining.

[Fritz]

Out of curiosity, why am I listed as not being able to change regions until July? It was my impression from some dialogue on the broader issue many moons ago that everyone is entitled to one free move that does not expire. Seeing as how I rejoined without moving in the past six months, I don't think there is any restriction on my residency unless I had moved to a second region after re-joining.

When you de-registered, you were in the IDS.  You re-registered in a different region, that is a move.  What is unclear about this?

[Adam Griffin]

Out of curiosity, why am I listed as not being able to change regions until July? It was my impression from some dialogue on the broader issue many moons ago that everyone is entitled to one free move that does not expire. Seeing as how I rejoined without moving in the past six months, I don't think there is any restriction on my residency unless I had moved to a second region after re-joining.

When you de-registered, you were in the IDS.  You re-registered in a different region, that is a move.  What is unclear about this?

You don't have to be sassy about it.

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The appropriate amount of time had passed and I did not change my state of registration from one region to another within the past 180 days (I was in the IDS for 18 months), so my registration should be treated as any other new registration in the game. Deregistration doesn't count as a region change.

[Adam Griffin]

Just to clarify: I'm not trying to count the free move that I possessed prior to de-registration, but rather stating that the statute and constitutional stipulations regarding this don't apply here and that I should have a free move upon my registration.

[Fritz]

I wasn't being sassy, I'm just not getting you.

Yes, the appropriate amount of time had passed.  If it had not, I would not have permitted your registration in a region other than the IDS.

Put it this way.  If you had never de-registered and remained in the IDS all that time, then made a new registration in the Northeast as you have done, I'm sure you would agree that that is a region change, meaning you can't move again for six months.  Right?  So why should the fact that you de-registered change that?  The law, which you linked, does say that you are still bound to the same laws regarding region changing.  It is not treated the same as a brand new registration.

[Adam Griffin]

Put it this way.  If you had never de-registered and remained in the IDS all that time, then made a new registration in the Northeast as you have done, I'm sure you would agree that that is a region change, meaning you can't move again for six months.  Right?  So why should the fact that you de-registered change that?

Actually, assuming this is the case and in my particular situation, I wouldn't agree: I never used my free move prior and never moved during those first 18 months, either.

If it is to be said that my situation prior to de-registration is to be counted in all of this, then I would have legally been able to move to a new region (in this case, the Northeast) due to not having moved in at least six months. Under the scenario you outlined, yes, I would have to wait six months, except that I should also still have my free move left that everyone receives when they initially register (in my case, May 2012), n'est pas? Either my free move from before is counted or I received one upon rejoining; I don't see how in this particular case, it can simply vanish.

[Fritz]

I think you are misunderstanding the concept of a "free move".  When a new person registers, that initial registration is not considered a "move", therefore they can change regions in less than 6 months if they so choose.  No time is set for "next possible region change" for a brand new citizen.  Once a move is made, the 6 month rule is applied.  Make sense?

[Adam Griffin]

I think you are misunderstanding the concept of a "free move".  When a new person registers, that initial registration is not considered a "move", therefore they can change regions in less than 6 months if they so choose.  No time is set for "next possible region change" for a brand new citizen.  Once a move is made, the 6 month rule is applied.  Make sense?

It'd appear so, and yes, it makes sense now. I went back and dug up the relevant conversation. For some reason, I was thinking that it was decided that there was no expiration on a free move (versus six months), but instead, it was six months (versus 7 days). Thinking that it didn't expire, that made me assume that the concept of a "free move" was something everyone possessed so long as they moved no more than once every 180 days (or hadn't moved within the past 180 days). Sorry for the confusion here.   

[Adam Griffin]

Just one quick question/clarification and then I'm off: are you saying that someone has to be de-registered for six months before they are allowed to re-register and not be bound to Article V, Section II/treated as a new registration?

[Fritz]

Just one quick question/clarification and then I'm off: are you saying that someone has to be de-registered for six months before they are allowed to re-register and not be bound to Article V, Section II/treated as a new registration?

I suppose so, yes, though the law is not really clear on this.

[Fritz]

Census Atlasia
February 3, 2014

Region	Fed	Labor	PRO	CMP	DR	other	ind	Total
Mideast	23	6	2	4	2	3	6	46
Northeast	7	9	6	0	3	5	12	42
Midwest	5	13	3	2	0	2	4	29
IDS	12	3	3	1	3	1	4	27
Pacific	3	9	6	2	0	3	3	26
Total	50	40	20	9	8	14	29	170

[Fritz]

I will be on leave of absence until February 10.

[Fritz]

Census Atlasia
February 11, 2014

Region	Fed	Labor	PRO	CMP	DR	other	ind	Total
Mideast	21	6	2	4	3	3	7	46
Northeast	6	9	6	0	3	6	12	42
Midwest	5	13	3	2	0	2	4	29
IDS	12	3	3	1	3	1	4	27
Pacific	3	9	7	2	0	3	3	27
Total	47	40	21	9	9	15	30	171

[Flake]

The IDS and the Pacific have the same number of members??

[Lumine]

And thus, the argument of the Midwest as the inactive and empty region dies. (Finally!)

[Associate Justice PiT]

The IDS and the Pacific have the same number of members??

     We need to go out and recruit some new people. Both of our regions do.

[Adam Griffin]

RIP South

[Fritz]

Census Atlasia
February 17, 2014

Region	Fed	Labor	PRO	CMP	DR	RGP	other	ind	Total
Mideast	21	6	2	4	3	0	3	7	46
Northeast	6	10	6	0	3	0	5	12	42
Midwest	5	11	3	2	0	2	2	4	29
IDS	12	3	3	1	3	0	1	4	27
Pacific	3	9	5	2	0	2	3	3	27
Total	47	39	19	9	9	4	14	30	171

[Adam Griffin]

Was PR's party change counted? I know his move wasn't.

[Fritz]

Was PR's party change counted? I know his move wasn't.

No, because he deleted the post.

[Adam Griffin]

Was PR's party change counted? I know his move wasn't.

No, because he deleted the post.

Ah, OK - hadn't checked since.

[Fritz]

Census Atlasia
February 24, 2014

Region	Fed	Labor	PRO	CMP	DR	RGP	other	ind	Total
Mideast	20	5	2	4	3	0	3	7	44
Northeast	5	11	6	0	3	0	5	11	41
Midwest	5	11	3	2	0	2	2	4	29
Pacific	3	10	4	2	0	2	3	3	27
IDS	10	2	3	1	3	0	1	3	23
Total	43	39	18	9	9	4	14	28	164

[Fritz]

The following have missed three federal elections, and are now de-registered:

AndrewCT (ind-TX)
Ben Kenobi (Fed-TX)
dkrolga (Fed-MA)
Liberty Republican (Fed-SC)
mattyman (Fed-WI)
MustCrushCapitalism (Labor-IL)
nolesfan2011 (Labor-GA)

[Flake]

We're not last!