Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Here is why I rarely listen to the forum.  Most of the forum thinks I can't do anything, or can't do anything significant.  Friends don't think their friends can't do anything.  That's where most of the forum utterly fail.  They never give me a chance and try to discourage me from EVERY friggin job I come across.  Shut up, will ya.

See, Bushie, that's not it at all. The only reason we tell you things like you won't succeed at job X is because you don't have the personality or mindset for that job. It is because we care about you and we want to see you hold a job. Remember, we have not been wrong about anything so far; it's you that continues to chase the same dead end jobs expecting that, if you JUST TRY HARDER, you'll succeed.

Well, guess what, sometimes we are not suited for specific jobs. It's not a knock against you - it's just how life works. I can't be an NBA player no matter how hard I try, nor would I excel at customer service. I know my limitations. You seem to have this childlike approach where you think you can do anything you want if you set your mind to it. You now have 5 years of unemployment to show for your efforts, yet you keep telling us we are wrong while you continue to lose job after job.

You know that they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Sound familiar to you?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I am finally starting to believe Bushie needs to seek help.

This behavior is not normal and his not logical at all. He should've learned after the last tech support, and indeed he said he did, that customer service is not his area, and here we are, listening to him rationalize yet again that this time will be different.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I am finally starting to believe Bushie needs to seek help.

This behavior is not normal and his not logical at all. He should've learned after the last tech support, and indeed he said he did, that customer service is not his area, and here we are, listening to him rationalize yet again that this time will be different.

The thing is while customer support is definitely an important part, it is more IT related.  At least I'm not on the phones...

It's still customer support/service. I don't know what kind of job it is, but from what everyone is telling us in this thread, it's not something that will suit you because you'll have to be interacting with customers, sometimes angry ones at that.

That won't end well for you, my friend. I don't know why you keep saying it will be different. Remember when the last call center would become a "career" and then you finally saw we were right?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I feel bad for Bushie now. I think he's finally beginning to come to terms with what is going on. I wonder why he wasn't invited to the family vacation?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

There is too great of a stigma in Bushie' culture when it comes to things like that. He will never go to see anyone to talk to about his problems because it's taboo. After all, the only person you need in your life is God and he will make everything right. Until God decides to help, which he hasn't helped Bushie in 5 years now, he'll just suffer.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I wouldn't put all of Oklahoma in this, HD. I mean, there ARE mental health professionals who make enough of a living in Oklahoma for Bushie to see.

Not all OK, a big part is Bushie 's hubris.  Too good to not do white-collar jobs.  Too good to see a shrink.  Too good accept government assistance. 

Yes, this is true. Bushie is one of the most prideful persons I have ever come across to be in his situation and given his education and qualifications. I wonder where he learned to be such a snob considering where he grew up and who he grew up with. He doesn't come from a wealthy family or wealthy friends. Sure, his family has the means to continue supporting him, but they live in a trailer in rural Oklahoma. I doubt they're made of money either.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

As soon as I get my employment settled,

Why wait?

Since I'm looking in two different cities, I want to wait until I get my employment settled so in case my pastor wants to schedule follow-up visits.

Jeff, you're just making excuses now.  You know you have time to schedule this stuff.  Your job hunt hasn't stopped you from taking naps and watching dozens of hours of TV.  You're embarrassing yourself by putting forward this argument that you're too busy.

And I'd still like to hear your answer to why you do not want to see a psychiatrist or professional therapist.  It can't simply just be "Because I don't need to."  There must be something more.  You go to the dentist periodically, even when you don't have cavities; you get your bloodwork checked frequently, even though you don't have diabetes.  So why is this different?  I don't understand your strong insistence against just going and talking with someone who's trained in this stuff.

I'll be completely honest with my pastor.  I am honest on Facebook, and that's what I'll tell him and more.

Where are you reading that I'm too busy?  I am not in any way using that excuse.  I'm just saying that in case he wants to follow up with me and is in a different city, I don't have to travel 100 miles each way to see him once a week or whatever it is.

Plus, I DO NOT NEED TO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST.  I am not mentally ill like you seem to suggest.  I do take that offensively, because it is offensive to me.  The pastor is as good as you're going to get. So, just, SHUT UP!!!

And this is why he will never get his life in order. Seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist doesn't mean you're mentally ill. You see them to work through things. My parents have seen them. I have seen them during their divorce. It felt better to talk to someone who was unbiased and did not have a dog in the fight and someone who could give me advice.

Because all of my family has seen people at some point or another, does that mean we are all mentally ill?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What? 5-10 minutes? I've never talked to a psychiatrist who talked to me for less than 30 minutes, sometimes an hour.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

As I've stated numerous times, I don't at all understand what sort of magic you people seem to think a psychiatrist would do with Bushie. As it happens, I see one every three months. They're not miracle workers, and, for the most part, they're not talk therapists either. Like most doctors, they see patients for 5-10 minutes unless there is an extreme and urgent emergency. Mostly, they dabble in pharmaceuticals, making best guesses with brain chemistry. As the brain is still largely a mystery and everybody's brain is different, drug therapy involves a lot of trial and error, attempting to find drugs and dosages that best suit people's needs.

It sounds like you should find a new one.

I don't mean that as a sort of shot but I do know firsthand that there are those psychiatrists out there who tend to view these appointments as routine, quick visits that seem to merely be drug transactions. Despite that, I also know that there are a good degree of them who take their time with their patients (30 to an hour as Duke pointed out, once a week usually) with a lesser degree of emphasis on pharmaceuticals. I think seeing one once every three months is a terrible idea unless the patient's sole purpose for being there is to get medication. Like most things, it all depends on who you see and what you're looking for.

Alternately, "-ologists" are a good place to go for similar treatment without worrying about being pumped full of meds.

I see her to get Adderall, which is exactly what I want. I'm not much for the chit chat. I'm not much into all the feelings vibe, and my life, while not perfect, isn't an Update style clusterInks. I don't claim to be an expert on the issue, but I've never heard of a psychiatrist do all that much talk therapy. No offense to those who do, but seeing a doctor (and remember a psychiatrist is just that, an MD) once a week is serious overkill.

Well yes, if you're just in it to get drugs, then you don't need to sit down and talk to someone. Others actually do need it to talk to people. A psychologist would be good for Bushie, I think. I hope he actually goes through with it!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm home from the interview.  I feel pretty good about it, but that's not saying much.  I should find out by Tuesday.

What was it for?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Are customer service jobs still the only jobs in Oklahoma? I don't get why Bushie doesn't apply for a retail job. I get Wal Mart didn't call back about the assistant managers position but there are other things he could do to make some money...

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I use adblock pro, so I have nothing. You all need to learn to use it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not really angry at Bushie for insinuating I and my family are all mentally ill. He was conditioned to think that way and he doesn't dare stray from how he was raised.

And I dod mean more of a psychologist, that's what I saw during my parents divorce. He didn't give me any medicine, but did talk to me about things for at least 30 minutes to an hour a session.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Remember when they kept her for him because he wanted to be a daddy? That was during his daddy fetish, where he wanted a dog and african kids. And remember when it took them a week to figure out whether it was a boy or girl? Good times those were.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Where do you sleep at your parents since your room was turned into a train room?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Sassy, allcaps Bushie is the best Bushie!

And that is a FACT!!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I love how helpless Bushie is. Why can't you get some sent to a pharmacy in Tulsa?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

What's for dinner?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Bushie, have you ever believed that God is a woman? I am currently on a spiritual journey myself and I am convinced that God is a conniving woman hellbent on destroying all of us one day at a time. Do you think that's true? Some of the awful things in this world just don't make logical sense if you buy into the idea that God is this kind old man who loves all of us.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not sure why Bushie gets excited for interviews for tech support/customer service jobs. I'm sure they interview almost anyone for them.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

If you're making $0/hour, how can you be picky and say you'll only work for $11 an hour?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Bushie would lose weight if he went on a low carb diet. He could literally eat all the fat he wanted to if he stayed away from bread, rice, pasta, desserts, etc. I did that a few summers ago and dropped a ton of weight (well 15 pounds, I'm not overweight to start with), and now I rarely eat carbs aside from fruit with my yoghurt.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Bushie would lose weight if he went on a low carb diet. He could literally eat all the fat he wanted to if he stayed away from bread, rice, pasta, desserts, etc. I did that a few summers ago and dropped a ton of weight, and now I rarely eat carbs aside from fruit with my yoghurt.

But that's his diet?! And the animal-fat heavy thing doesn't work for many in the long-term and with someone of Bushie probable cardio-vascular health... increasing his fat load probably isn't the best option.

I'm not saying he should up his fat intake, but studies have proven time and again that as long as you cut out the carbs, pasta, breads, rice, processed sugars, you WILL lose weight. It seems crazy, yes, but the tried and true diet of low fat high carbs won't work, it rarely does.

But yes, I know he won't do it, because he won't give up sugars. But it works. I felt great when I was on that strict diet. I might go on it against this fall because I rarely have a craving for starches and carbs anyway.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Bushie would lose weight if he went on a low carb diet. He could literally eat all the fat he wanted to if he stayed away from bread, rice, pasta, desserts, etc. I did that a few summers ago and dropped a ton of weight, and now I rarely eat carbs aside from fruit with my yoghurt.

But that's his diet?! And the animal-fat heavy thing doesn't work for many in the long-term and with someone of Bushie probable cardio-vascular health... increasing his fat load probably isn't the best option.

I'm not saying he should up his fat intake, but studies have proven time and again that as long as you cut out the carbs, pasta, breads, rice, processed sugars, you WILL lose weight. It seems crazy, yes, but the tried and true diet of low fat high carbs won't work, it rarely does.

But yes, I know he won't do it, because he won't give up sugars. But it works. I felt great when I was on that strict diet. I might go on it against this fall because I rarely have a craving for starches and carbs anyway.

I did in in 2002/3... also dropped a lot. But I mentioned it to my trainer... and he went bright red and said "it's fine for a few months, even years, but long-term - you need carbs"

Right, I hardly am on it full time. Most days I eat upwards of 50-100g of carbs. But I think it's good to train yourself not to eat processed foods. I basically changed my diet for the better after I went on that strict diet and felt fantastic. I still eat pasta occasionally and fries nowadays, but hardly more than once or twice a month. I have sort of trained myself to not even enjoy things like that anymore. I feel bloated after eating a bowl of pasta or fries.

Of course, I don't expect Bushie to ever do that because not eating cake with every meal is un-American and wrong, but I thought I'd throw it out there.