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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2012, 11:54:56 AM »

The Torygraph is already calling him 'just another Left-wing establishment bureaucrat'. That was fast.
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« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2012, 12:57:11 PM »

The Torygraph is already calling him 'just another Left-wing establishment bureaucrat'. That was fast.

I would take out "Left-wing" and insert "increasingly irrelevant."
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2012, 01:38:53 PM »

He seems like one of those compromise candidates the C of E loves so much. Sort of traditionalist, except when he's not. Sort of liberal, except where he's not. An improvement over Rowan, but that's not saying much.
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« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2012, 02:03:03 PM »

He seems like one of those compromise candidates the C of E loves so much. Sort of traditionalist, except when he's not. Sort of liberal, except where he's not. An improvement over Rowan, but that's not saying much.

I think it's actually saying quite a lot (and also untrue), but he's definitely somebody on whom it's very easy to be more or less neutral or unmoved and I do think that was partially the point.
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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2012, 03:00:07 PM »

He seems like one of those compromise candidates the C of E loves so much. Sort of traditionalist, except when he's not. Sort of liberal, except where he's not. An improvement over Rowan, but that's not saying much.

I think it's actually saying quite a lot (and also untrue), but he's definitely somebody on whom it's very easy to be more or less neutral or unmoved and I do think that was partially the point.

Rowan, and his "mechanism," really turned me off.  I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to the view that gay bishops is something that is unacceptable to parts of the Communion, but I do not want Canterbury to even hint at the idea that it has some sort shadowy, but formal, authority over the ECUSA.

I know that there are parts of the Communion that object, but they don't have a veto over us (or we of them).
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« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2012, 03:16:00 PM »

He seems like one of those compromise candidates the C of E loves so much. Sort of traditionalist, except when he's not. Sort of liberal, except where he's not. An improvement over Rowan, but that's not saying much.

I think it's actually saying quite a lot (and also untrue), but he's definitely somebody on whom it's very easy to be more or less neutral or unmoved and I do think that was partially the point.

Rowan, and his "mechanism," really turned me off.  I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to the view that gay bishops is something that is unacceptable to parts of the Communion, but I do not want Canterbury to even hint at the idea that it has some sort shadowy, but formal, authority over the ECUSA.

I know that there are parts of the Communion that object, but they don't have a veto over us (or we of them).

That's entirely fair, and was one of my (otherwise relatively few) problems with Rowan as well. I certainly think and hope Justin might be somewhat better on that front; it's on matters of theology and dogmatics where he's not much to my taste and Rowan was very much so--which I suppose isn't really what I realistically should be judging ABCs on, so...
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« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2012, 06:20:31 PM »

All Christian churches should excommunicate any member who doesn't believe in full equality for gays.
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« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2012, 06:24:41 PM »

Not that I wouldn't love to see an internal putsch of some kind in the Church of England right now, but I doubt it's going to happen.
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