Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP? Round 8

[retromike22]

Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP? Every 4 days the candidates with the lowest votes will be removed. The first candidate to 50% wins. In this round, you can vote for 1 candidate. You can always change your vote before the poll ends.

Results from last week: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=213016.0

Advanced:
Tim Kaine (VA)        (33%)
Martin Heinrich (NM)     (27.7%)
Julian Castro (TX)     (22.3%)

Eliminated:
Sherrod Brown (OH)    (17%)

[Cryptic]

Kaine

[AelroseB]

Kaine.

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Come on, vote for Heinrich!

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Come on, vote for Heinrich!

[Flake]

Heinrich or Castro

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Heinrich or Castro

One of Obama's blunders when he had 60 votes in senate; was not passing inmigration reform. Which further enhanced the GOP takeover.

She is determined in some fashion, to give Latinos more enhancement over work visas and citizenship.

[King]

If Castro can survive a serious and rigorous vetting process, you have to go with him. He's the only one of the three that has the potential to be elected President in 2024, even if Hillary isn't re-elected.. But you have to make sure he can handle a tough debate and be a serious candidate.

Heinrich or Kaine would basically be Al Gore.

[TDAS04]

Heinrich

[Suburbia]

Kaine. He can win the presidency in 2024.

[Türkisblau]

Kaine. He can win the presidency in 2024.

Surely you aren't arguing that Democrats will hold the presidency for 5 straight terms?

[Mister Mets]

Of the three, Kaine.

He's pretty qualified and familiar with the national spotlight.

[WVdemocrat]

Kaine. He can win the presidency in 2024.

Eh, I doubt it. Democrats are going to want someone younger and new by then.

[Mr. Smith]

Kaine

[Brewer]

Heinrich

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Kaine.

[henster]

What does Heinrich bring to the ticket? He's a very low key Senator, not an ethnic, only speaks one language, no military background and his seat would be go to a Republican. If you want a young Senator I'd go with Chris Murphy or Brian Schatz both of their seats would be secure.

[bedstuy]

If Castro can survive a serious and rigorous vetting process, you have to go with him. He's the only one of the three that has the potential to be elected President in 2024, even if Hillary isn't re-elected.. But you have to make sure he can handle a tough debate and be a serious candidate.

Heinrich or Kaine would basically be Al Gore.

Do you really think that matters?

Let's look at recent history.

2008:  Even if Bush had an electable VP, like Hagel or Bill Frist, being Bush's VP only would have hurt their chances. 

2000:  Being VP probably hurt Al Gore in the 2000 election because he was too worried about morality and dignity to run on the economy. 

1988:  Kind of a hollow victory because Bush lost in 1992 and he had to deal with Iran Contra in 1988.

There is some upside to picking a rising star as your VP, because you elevate their profile for the next election, sure.  But, if they're such a star, they could get the necessary profile to run on their own.  (Obviously, Castro has problems with that because he can't win a Senate race in Texas)

On the downside, think of all the clunker VP candidates we've had recently, Ryan, Edwards, Palin, Quayle.  There's more risk with those younger, more unknown candidates.

So, I would just pick a boring, but competent and well-liked person.  Or, more importantly, the best person for the job of White House advisor and vague senior figure.  The political stuff will take care of itself if you pick the best person for the job.

[Panhandle Progressive]

Kaine

[Maxwell]

Heinrich, not for the future Presidential angle but for the fact that he isn't a potential landmine for inexperience like Castro or a political incompetent like Kaine.

[Mister Mets]

If Castro can survive a serious and rigorous vetting process, you have to go with him. He's the only one of the three that has the potential to be elected President in 2024, even if Hillary isn't re-elected.. But you have to make sure he can handle a tough debate and be a serious candidate.

Heinrich or Kaine would basically be Al Gore.

Do you really think that matters?

Let's look at recent history.

2008:  Even if Bush had an electable VP, like Hagel or Bill Frist, being Bush's VP only would have hurt their chances. 

2000:  Being VP probably hurt Al Gore in the 2000 election because he was too worried about morality and dignity to run on the economy. 

1988:  Kind of a hollow victory because Bush lost in 1992 and he had to deal with Iran Contra in 1988.

There is some upside to picking a rising star as your VP, because you elevate their profile for the next election, sure.  But, if they're such a star, they could get the necessary profile to run on their own.  (Obviously, Castro has problems with that because he can't win a Senate race in Texas)

On the downside, think of all the clunker VP candidates we've had recently, Ryan, Edwards, Palin, Quayle.  There's more risk with those younger, more unknown candidates.

So, I would just pick a boring, but competent and well-liked person.  Or, more importantly, the best person for the job of White House advisor and vague senior figure.  The political stuff will take care of itself if you pick the best person for the job.

Hmm, that raises an interesting point. An advantage with Castro is that it gives the Democrats a national Hispanic figure without him having to win a statewide election in Texas. He could use it to run for President in later cycles.

[Thunderbird is the word]

If Castro can survive a serious and rigorous vetting process, you have to go with him. He's the only one of the three that has the potential to be elected President in 2024

You really think that declaring someone the inevitable and only possible winner nine years out is the brightest idea?

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The guy who was DNC chair when the Democrats had a net loss of 63 House seats is leading? LOL.

[Ebsy]

The guy who was DNC chair when the Democrats had a net loss of 63 House seats is leading? LOL.

I don't understand this forum's obsession with Tim Kaine.

[Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort]

Heinrich.