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Question: Will Obama be a better President than Bush?
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2008, 02:39:59 pm »
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He's going to be mediocre, methinks, so yeah, he will be infinitely better than Bush.
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2008, 03:58:23 pm »
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One would think he will be, but with the current economic climate, I have no idea. He seems to have surrounded himself with the former Clinton team. They came into office with the economy on the rise, so it will be interesting to see how they do when coming into office with the economy plummeting. Lord knows I need him to be successful. I don't know if he will be better than Bush. If things continue to get worse, the war rages on, we have a terrorist attack at home because he weakens homeland security to pay for his New Deal, then no. I hope none of that happens. We need to get our economy turned around.
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2008, 04:00:23 pm »
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The bar Obama has to clear to do this is similar to one that would be used at the pole vault event at the midget Olympics.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2008, 08:25:30 pm »
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Yes, because I don't see how he could possibly be worse.
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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2008, 11:10:25 pm »
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Is he going to actively try to destroy the country (or at least certain elements of it)? Probably not, so he gets a "yes" by default right there.
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2008, 01:02:43 am »
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Obama will have a better Presidency.  Bush's Presidency has been a national embarrassment and the biggest disaster since Hoover's.  Bush combines the worst qualities of Richard Nixon and Warren Harding.
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2008, 01:14:33 am »
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Harding was a million times better than Bush.
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2008, 01:56:55 am »
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Are we talking about the same Warren Harding?  The one who was more interested in poker and his mistress than governing?  Whose tax cuts, like Bush's, were hugely slanted toward the rich?  Whose Secretary of the Interior sold off our nation's oil reserves to oilmen in exchange for money under the table?  (Teapot Dome Scandal).  Harding's Attorney General was also caught up in corruption.  His administration practically defined "on the take."

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2008, 09:15:46 am »
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It would be difficult for him not to be.
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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2008, 06:11:32 pm »
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Yes
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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2008, 06:23:31 pm »
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Yes, by definition.

Really, explain that.

Sure.. I already did once, here it is again:

...Though Democrats are too far right to be much good, they are always, every time, better than their extreme right alternates.

In other words I only care about ideology.

For someone who does not believe in objective morality it seems odd to care only about ideology. But I guess logical consistency is subjective/tool to oppress the masses or something.
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2008, 06:38:13 pm »
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he'll be better in the sense that, the speech at which we continue to march towards the cliff will only be increasing at a decreasing rate.  as opposed to Bush, as the third derivative was positive
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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2008, 06:41:39 pm »
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he'll be better in the sense that, the speech at which we continue to march towards the cliff will only be increasing at a decreasing rate.  as opposed to Bush, as the third derivative was positive
thus making Bush a jerk in more ways than one.
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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2008, 08:41:56 pm »
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Very hard seeing Obama being worse than Bush, unless he is the Antichrist afterall.
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2008, 09:15:00 pm »
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he'll be better in the sense that, the speech at which we continue to march towards the cliff will only be increasing at a decreasing rate.  as opposed to Bush, as the third derivative was positive
thus making Bush a jerk in more ways than one.


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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2008, 11:11:24 pm »
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he'll be better in the sense that, the speech at which we continue to march towards the cliff will only be increasing at a decreasing rate.  as opposed to Bush, as the third derivative was positive

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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2008, 01:05:27 pm »
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I almost answered no just to piss BRTD off, but c'mon, I'm not a 43 hater at all but Obama would have to almost try to not be better.
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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2010, 12:23:46 am »
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Well I still vote yes of course, but I wonder what others say.
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I don't know, I think the beat-back that happened in the wake of the Inks-Deluge debacle (and the descent of Leip to address it) means that the Mods don't have the standing right now to pull off a ban of a big-name poster.  this place would absolutely erupt, at least for opebo.  jmf maybe a bit less so, but still an outcry.  doesn't mean it could not happen at a future point.
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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2010, 01:46:26 am »
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LOLNO
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2010, 08:56:21 am »
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He's going to be mediocre, methinks, so yeah, he will be infinitely better than Bush.
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« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2010, 10:36:56 am »
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Only an absurd right-wing hack would say that Obama has been worse than Bush TBH. I mean, Bush made some good decisions - TARP, arguably Iraq if that's your thing - but overall his Presidency was such a mess it will likely not be matched for decades.
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« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2010, 11:02:55 am »
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The only good thing Bush ever did was divert the bailout money to save GM. And that was basically the last major action of his Presidency, so it sort of seems like he was on the road to redemption in an odd way, though obviously he will never acheive it.
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I don't know, I think the beat-back that happened in the wake of the Inks-Deluge debacle (and the descent of Leip to address it) means that the Mods don't have the standing right now to pull off a ban of a big-name poster.  this place would absolutely erupt, at least for opebo.  jmf maybe a bit less so, but still an outcry.  doesn't mean it could not happen at a future point.
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« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2010, 05:20:03 pm »
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Unimpressive, but still better (which is not very hard).
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« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2010, 05:51:10 pm »
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Unimpressive, but still better (which is not very hard).
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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2010, 06:32:31 pm »
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Only an absurd right-wing hack would say that Obama has been worse than Bush TBH. I mean, Bush made some good decisions - TARP, arguably Iraq if that's your thing - but overall his Presidency was such a mess it will likely not be matched for decades.

Haha, figures that you would list TARP and Iraq as "good decisions" of the Bush regime.


As for the OP question, of course not. Obama is far more dangerous than Shrub ever was. The Pakistan and Iran wars will make Afghanistan and Iraq look like walks in the park.

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