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« on: March 13, 2017, 05:05:23 PM »

Schumer and Ryan have very different responses:

Ryan:


Paul Ryan is seriously a low life fuk boy

It was never Republican intentions to ensure more Americans receive health insurance coverage, only that the cost of premiums, the cost of health insurance for the average American, and the burden of cost to tax payers decreases. Technically this plan meets those criteria. So as far as most Republicans are concerned, yes, this is a success. It's not a Republican goal to expand coverage or ensure access to healthcare as a right; those are Democratic goals.

Except Trump said that no Americans would lose coverage under an Obamacare repeal.



Trump says a great many things. Virtually none of them are true.

Part of his normalization is the loss of outrage at the fact that his delusional oral emissions have only tangential contact with reality.

Trumpism poses a difficult challenge, because it is not enough to oppose and politically fight it. We also have to keep pushing back against the sewage tsunami that is the modern GOP.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 04:04:02 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 01:35:13 PM »


The only response any Republican should get when complaining of political rudeness or anything like it is derisive laughter. After they impeach Trump, or at least boot him from their party and apologize to the nation, they can try to talk. Until then:

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 01:41:55 PM »


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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2017, 12:00:07 PM »

Happening right now ...

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What will come out of this ? What do you think ?
Will there be a food fight ? What style of food will be on trump's face, and which Senator threw it ? (have some fun, and make your guess)

Trump will serve himself a double helping of dessert to prove what a great deal-maker he is.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 11:08:17 PM »

So, the skinny repeal preserves 95% of ObamaCare, doesn't get rid of the Medicaid expansion, or the exchanges or like, 95% of things ObamaCare does.

But it raises premiums 20% and kicks off 16 million people because of higher premiums. Do I have that right?

Yes. And most Republican senators  seem to be aware of that and will vote yes anyway

They're making a short term political calculation that will royally screw them in future elections.

The GOP, especially now with Trump as their figurehead, cares more now about the optics of ostensible victory over actual substantive victories. Such is the myopia that has infected the party. It's like watching a trainwreck full of people you don't like, and who mean you harm happen in slow motion.

The wreck itself is awful, and the damage it does is going to be heartbreaking. But I'm not personally on the train and it's hard to resist the anticipatory schadenfreude.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 11:09:19 PM »

lolol...Conservatives on Facebook are pissed...sharing this chart:



And the GOP and Trump will own all of the negatives.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 12:21:40 AM »

Far from definitive, but Yes just cratered on PredictIt.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 01:13:46 AM »

So, when is Trump's temper tantrum on Twitter coming?

Around 6:30am Eastern would be my guess. He claims to sleep for 4 hours a night, and is probably going to bed about now.  

Unless his caregivers take his cell phone away, of course.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 06:12:31 AM »

Trump's already revising his personal reality to make it so he didn't lose last night.


It's so familiar, it's like it's straight out of a fairy tale.
 
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 11:13:28 AM »

Blaming Congress, GOPers? Blame Trump. Presidents take point on important agenda items, and he was tweeting about his AG.

While I blaming Trump for the failure of this healthcare push is completely appropriate, don't forget the chief reason why we have Trump in the first place: Republicans.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 05:42:33 PM »

John Podhoretz blames Trump for the failure:

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/obamacare-donald-trumps-fault/

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2017, 09:27:39 PM »

The useless GOP at it again:

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They're so thirsty for political gain and to discredit the Obama that it's not even funny anymore.

Oh, it is funny, in a pretty dark way. If McConnell is stupid enough to gut the filibuster on Trump's orders he ties the GOP to Trump even more strongly, angers a few of his own party who aren't stupid, and gives the Dems a blank check for the future.

And if they spike Obamacare out of spite, they'll own the resulting failure.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2017, 09:35:37 PM »

I'm too lazy to copy it in here, but Trump just tweeted out that Congress should not vote on any other bill until repeal is given another vote.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891397134662193152

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What is this, 3rd grade? Only chickens back down from ObamaCare repeal!

This is where Trump is heading, if he's not already there:
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2017, 12:17:55 AM »

http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-healthcare-trump-idINKBN1AF01N

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So, now Trump is threatening Congresspeople...did he even read the book he wrote?

No. The book was ghostwritten, and Trump doesn't read books.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2017, 09:33:40 AM »


Anyone who thought he had a strategy in the first place was vastly overestimating him.

He stumbled into most of his victories. Some of them were helped along by others who did know what they were doing, but Trump has no over-arching strategy. He has goals, which are to be important/powerful and to make money. But strategy and forethought? Nope. Never has and never will.

I don't know which is worse. That you're right (which you are) about the President of the US being clueless and a little lucky, or the people who still think he's got some sort of strategic vision beyond, as you said, greed and lust for power.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 09:13:58 AM »

President Moron is at it some more:
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917698839846576130?p=v
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For the chance of this actually happening, see my signature.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 01:25:20 PM »

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My god he is in idiot.

Why the hell would you say this? You just tied yourself to all the negative fallouts from healthcare.



He has Obamaphobia.

The more I see of Dumb Leader the more I think the claim that his entire campaign and Presidency is about getting back at Obama for roasting him at the White House correspondents dinner is true.
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