Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Filuwaúrdjan]

My views on the Budget are, I think, quite clear to all these days.

And I'd like to say "sorry" again...

[Emsworth]

I believe that we have at least one piece of obsolete legislation on the books: the Diplomatic Mission Act. To my knowledge, no President has taken any interest whatsoever in complying with its provisions, and no citizen has taken any interest whatsoever in making sure that it is enforced. Accordingly, I would request any Senator to introduce a bill to repeal this law.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Just because no President has entered negotiations with other micronations since the DMA was passed doesn't mean that none will.

[MasterJedi]

End of the Budget Amendment

1.) Aritcle I, Section 8 of the Constitution is hereby repealed

Hopefully this can quickly pass the Senate and the pass the regions. The last time there was an amendment vote for it too many people were ignorant about how the budget works and voted against removing it.

[MasterJedi]

Amendment to Allow the Senate to Set a Minimum Wage

The Senate shall have power to set a minimum wage, as it deems necessary. It shall be variable in that one shall be set for the Republic of Atlasia (the Five Regions) and others shall be set for the Insular Territories, at an appropriate level deemed by the Senate. The Regions shall also have power to set a minimum wage, within their jurisdictions, but this shall only have effect where this wage is greater than that which has been set by the Senate.

Same thing I said for the other amendment applies for this as well.

[SPC]

The [Yates Cancer Research Bill] has garnered enough votes to fail

At last, the long national nightmare is finally over.

[Peter]

Why in the name of Dave would we want to celebrate the Mexican Flag?

[Ebowed]

Why in the name of Dave would we want to celebrate the Mexican Flag?

To show solidarity with the Mexican invasion of undocumented workers.

[Peter]

Why in the name of Dave would we want to celebrate the Mexican Flag?

To show solidarity with the Mexican invasion of undocumented workers.

You are a HP.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I ask Sam Spade to deem Ebowed's Holiday Bill frivolous

[King]

I ask Sam Spade to deem Ebowed's Holiday Bill frivolous

Why? Because you don't like it?

It's no more frivolous than to give nonexistent state governments the power to impose flag burning penalties.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I ask Sam Spade to deem Ebowed's Holiday Bill frivolous

Why? Because you don't like it?

It's no more frivolous than to give nonexistent state governments the power to impose flag burning penalties.

Yeah it should probably be regions, but that's not really an issue.  This bill screams that it is a joke, there is absolutley no chance it will even be taken seriously and is a waste of time.

[Ebowed]

This bill screams that it is a joke, there is absolutley no chance it will even be taken seriously and is a waste of time.

It absolutely is not a joke.  I support creating each of those holidays.  If you don't like one of them, you can motion to amend the bill when it reaches the floor.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Hybrid Car Tax Break

Section 1:
a.) This bill is aimed to stimulate the purchases of hybrid and alternative fuel source cars and their use
b.) To qualify the car cannot run solely on petroleum gasoline, but may be a hybrid running on petroleum gasoline and another fuel source
c.) To qualify you must also continue to own the car, selling or donating your car will invalidate you to further tax breaks

Section 2:
The following tax breaks will be issued for purchasing a hybrid car:
1st Fiscal Year (referred to as FY) of ownership: 50% of price paid for the car
2nd FY of ownership: 25% of price paid for the car
3rd FY of ownership: 20% of price paid for the car
4th FY of ownership: 15% of price paid for the car
5th FY of ownership: 10% of price paid for the car
6+ FY of ownership: 8% of price paid for the car

Section 3:
This law shall apply to federal income taxes only

Section 2 is confusing.  Does it mean that if I buy a hybrid car and own it for 6 years I get back 128% of the purchase price in tax breaks?

This is terrible bill. Not only are the tax breaks excessive, it represents an attempt by the government to micromanage which technological solutions will be employed to reduce petroleum use.  Worse, all this will do is place a large number of flex fuel vehicles on the road that will be filled up with petroleum based fuels so long as they are cheaper than other alternatives.

[SPC]

As far as the Education Funding Clarification Bill, the tex of which is here:

Educational Funding Clarification Bill

No federal money shall go towards any regional school voucher system which funds the tuitions for schools which meet any of the following criteria:
a.) Teaches one religious faith to the exclusion of all others
b.) Prohibits students from joining on the basis of race, nationality, religion, or sexual orientation
c.) Allows the use of corporal punishment by school staff or administration.

(Sponsor: Ebowed)

I think it would be ideal if the entirety of the bill was scrapped with the exception of the bolded part. For one, I see no reason federal funds should be allocated to any voucher program. This bill in its current text would implicate the federal funds should go to voucher schools if they meet those requirements. Also, by refusing to allocate funds to those voucher schools while allocating funds to voucher schools that meet the requirements, that is essentially a subsidy of voucher schools that meet those requirements. The first requirement seems a bit frivolous, as I don't see, for example, why any non-Catholic would want to join a Catholic school. Why should the teaching of the Catholic religion be excluded in a private, all-Catholic school?

[Ebowed]

Why should the teaching of the Catholic religion be excluded in a private, all-Catholic school?

Because the government is paying for it, and that's a violation of the separation of church and state.

[King]

Why should the teaching of the Catholic religion be excluded in a private, all-Catholic school?

Because the government is paying for it, and that's a violation of the separation of church and state.

No it isn't.  The separation of church and state is meant so the government doesn't force a religion on it's people.  The government offering a student a voucher to go to any school they want and that student choosing a religious school isn't forcing anything.

[Brandon H]

Reform of the Alcohol Reform Act Bill

I think Alcohol Reform Act Reform Act would have been a better name.

[DownWithTheLeft]

So much Ebowed loving freedom, he has proposed a bill to ban snowmobiles in parks.

[Ebowed]

I have withdrawn the Creation of Federal Holidays Bill.

[SPC]

Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

[Јas]

Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

[SPC]

Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

If that's the case, then Ebowed's amendment is completely pointless.

[Ebowed]

Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

If that's the case, then Ebowed's amendment is completely pointless.

No it's not.  A President should be able to run for a third consecutive term.

[SPC]

Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

If that's the case, then Ebowed's amendment is completely pointless.

No it's not.  A President should be able to run for a third consecutive term.

I'm not arguming with the principle. I just think it's frivolous because presidents forthe most part only serve one term.