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« on: November 06, 2019, 03:02:56 am »

I motion for a vote on this legislation. Given that this bill has been on the floor for more than 72 hours (118 hours, in fact) and debate has halted for more than 24 hours (32, in fact).

I second the motion.

24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2019, 12:53:18 am »

I motion for a vote on this legislation. Given that this bill has been on the floor for more than 72 hours (118 hours, in fact) and debate has halted for more than 24 hours (32, in fact).

I second the motion.

24 hours for objections.


I object.

As there has been a formal objection debate will continue.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2019, 07:09:08 am »
« Edited: November 09, 2019, 08:31:05 am by Southern Speaker Muaddib »

And why exactly do you trust the employers to make the right decisions?

Anyway uhhhhhhhhh basically we’ve gone over this. The only reason you’re doing this is so it takes longer to get passed because you know it will and this is all you can do to stop it.

If I had been elected Governor, and this bill was passed, I would sign this into law. Unless I'd received some strong advice (that I respected the validity of) against doing so. For example if was unconstitutional, as I would for any bill. I have a neutral stance on labor laws and respect the will of the Southern Chamber of Delegates with regards to legislating. I have not commented on this bill until now because of my neutral stance on labor laws.

The workers united will never be defeated! I am not delaying a vote on this bill. I would like it noted for the record that I seconded the motion for this vote to go ahead.


On a related note, I hope the the Transport Union sees the value of my own bill to protect Southern Transport Jobs, in spite of the fact that A.C.L.O. has decided not to advocate for the long term security of these jobs. I must say that is a most disappointing position for A.C.L.O. whose entire raison d'etre is about protecting workers. The LABORER Act, the bill we are currently debating, got an A+ from A.C.L.O. Maybe A.C.L.O. are just after the increased income they'd receive from these union dues? The LABORER Act regardless of it benefits will make less than a ₿€€'s D!¢K of difference to Transport industry workers in the medium to long term future if those jobs no longer exist due to automation! Plain and simple. The dignity of paid work, and a job well done are fundamental to well being.

Quote from: Ecclesiastes 5:18-20
18 I have seen what is best for people here on earth. They should eat and drink and enjoy their work, because the life God has given them on earth is short. 19 God gives some people the ability to enjoy the wealth and property he gives them, as well as the ability to accept their state in life and enjoy their work. 20 They do not worry about how short life is, because God keeps them busy with what they love to do.

Quote from: Peter Lalor, leader of the Ballarat Reform League


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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2019, 12:55:17 am »
« Edited: November 11, 2019, 06:56:38 am by Southern Speaker Muaddib »

Since debate has died down again, I motion for a direct vote of cloture.

Quote from: The Standing Rules of the Southern Chamber of Delegates
When debate on legislation has halted for longer than 24 hours and the legislation has been on the floor for more than 72 hours but no more than 336 hours, any Delegates may motion for cloture. Upon the concurrence of two-thirds of the Chamber of Delegates, the Chamber of Delegates shall end debate.

I motion for a Final Vote.

If there is another objection to a final vote this will be the trigger the vote for cloture.


Edit: If and when there is is an objection. Please quote this post and start voting on the vote for cloture.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2019, 06:50:18 am »

I saw fhtagn has now bought the "Social Security is going broke!" myth.

Also hypocritical that she accuses others of ignoring her points when she just ignored MB's point that she's trying to waste the CoD's time (probably because it is true).

Mr. Vice President, this is an unexpected pleasure we are honored by your presence. Considering the current level of engagement from Delegates of the Southern Chamber it would appear that labor delegates might think there is plenty of time to waste. Delegate West Midlander (Peace) and myself (ACP) are actively engaging in debate and discussion in this 16th session of the Southern Chamber of Delegates. Maybe you could use your position both Party Chair and as Vice President to encourage delegates from your party (Labor) to engage more in the debate and discussion held in this esteemed chamber.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2019, 07:17:04 am »

I saw fhtagn has now bought the "Social Security is going broke!" myth.

Also hypocritical that she accuses others of ignoring her points when she just ignored MB's point that she's trying to waste the CoD's time (probably because it is true).

Mr. Vice President, this is an unexpected pleasure we are honored by your presence. Considering the current level of engagement from Delegates of the Southern Chamber it would appear that labor delegates might think there is plenty of time to waste. Delegate West Midlander (Peace) and myself (ACP) are actively engaging in debate and discussion in this 16th session of the Southern Chamber of Delegates. Maybe you could use your position both Party Chair and as Vice President to encourage delegates from your party (Labor) to engage more in the debate and discussion held in this esteemed chamber.

You can rest assured that I am doing my best to ensure that us left-wingers make the most of the opportunity the recent Southern election results provide for us.

Mr. Vice President, how partisan of you.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2019, 08:13:39 am »

I saw fhtagn has now bought the "Social Security is going broke!" myth.

Also hypocritical that she accuses others of ignoring her points when she just ignored MB's point that she's trying to waste the CoD's time (probably because it is true).

Mr. Vice President, this is an unexpected pleasure we are honored by your presence. Considering the current level of engagement from Delegates of the Southern Chamber it would appear that labor delegates might think there is plenty of time to waste. Delegate West Midlander (Peace) and myself (ACP) are actively engaging in debate and discussion in this 16th session of the Southern Chamber of Delegates. Maybe you could use your position both Party Chair and as Vice President to encourage delegates from your party (Labor) to engage more in the debate and discussion held in this esteemed chamber.

You can rest assured that I am doing my best to ensure that us left-wingers make the most of the opportunity the recent Southern election results provide for us.

Mr. Vice President, how partisan of you.

A politician says something partisan. Shock horror. Who could have possibly predicted this.

One would think that someone who is vice president would at least try to be act as a statesman.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 02:45:24 am »

One would think that someone who is vice president would at least try to be act as a statesman.
You do realize I'm Chair of the Labor Party?
I am fully aware. Hence my statement. Forgive me for thinking that one would at least try to act as a statesman while serving in as the Vice President of our great country, Chairman Pericles.

A vote should have been called on this, Tim, Muaddib.
I did motion for the vote.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 02:50:54 am »
« Edited: November 14, 2019, 02:56:22 am by Southern Speaker Muaddib »

As there have been no objections, Final vote on S.19.4-2: LABORER Act, is now open.
Voting will close after 48 hours or when all delegates have voted which ever is comes first.
Sound the Bells (Delegates will be DM'd)

Bill reads as Follows:
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Whereas: “Right-to-work” laws across the South greatly reduce the ability of workers of all creeds from seeking and securing the rights of sufficient pay, a decent working environment, just amounts of vacation time, and sick and parental leave.
 
As a result: I hereby introduce this legislation to the Chamber of Delegates.
 
The LABORER’s Act of 2017
Article I — The long title of this bill shall be “The Laborer’s Assurance Bill Offering Registration and Entrance into Regional & Federal Labor Unions Act”. The bill may be referred to as “The LABORER’s Act” or “The LABORER Act”.
Article II — “Right-to-work” laws are hereby defined for the purposes of this legislation to be any law that prohibits contracts requiring union membership as a condition for employment, between unions and employers.
Article III — So called, “right-to-work” laws currently in effect anywhere under Southern jurisdiction are hereby invalidated.
Article IV — No state, locality, or another level of government under the jurisdiction of the Southern Region shall enact a “right-to-work” law.
Article V — The Southern Region shall not enact a “right-to-work” law.
Article VI — Articles I, II, IV, and V shall go into effect immediately after the approval of this legislation. Article III shall go into effect on May 1, 2020.
sponsor: WestMidlander


Voting options are:
[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
[   ] Abstain
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 03:00:48 am »

I still am extremely confused how me being VP is supposed to forbid me from commenting on politics.
I've not forbidden you on commenting on politics. Perhaps you should reread my actual statements.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 04:07:21 am »

I still am extremely confused how me being VP is supposed to forbid me from commenting on politics.
I've not forbidden you on commenting on politics. Perhaps you should reread my actual statements.
Your statements are extremely stupid no matter how many times I read them, so I'll put my time to better use Smiley
Indeed I can't help you if there is a lack of ability to comprehend subtly, nuance and duty. Maybe they need better English classes in NZ. One where comprehension and subtly are actually taught. Wink

...personally attack everyone who disagrees with you.
Hypocrisy is thy name, Pericles Wink

I'm happy you'll save yourself some time.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2019, 12:26:03 am »

[ x ] Abstain
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2019, 03:14:51 am »

Voting is closed

S.19.4-2: LABORER Act passes.

Final Vote Tally S.19.4-2:
[ 2 ] Aye
[ 1 ] Nay
[ 1 ] Abstain
[ 1 ] Absent  (PragmaticPopulist)

The bill now awaits the Governors signature
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2019, 04:03:00 am »

You are not everyone I disagree with, and furthermore I critiqued your posts.
If by critique you mean, fail to comprehend and then straw man, then yes. You indeed "critiqued" my posts. Wink I can see why Fhtagn's refrain with regards to yourself, Chairman Pericles, is "pay attention".

If you want to be immune from criticism you shouldn't have joined Atlasia.
LOL. Where am I claiming to want to be "immune from criticism"? If you had an actual critique of my actual position/s. Then one may have something that could resemble a valid point in with regards to that statement.

You responded anyway so you seem to implicitly think my posts are worth your time Wink

Unless its an actual critic of a statement you've made...


So Mr. Vice President, I'm an extremist because I've created bills that passed with bipartisan support?

S.19.2-3: Tax Inclusive Pricing Scheme (TIPS) 6  Aye, 1 Absent
S.19.2-6: resolution relating to freedom of speech on the internet 6 Aye, 1 Nay (an independent)
S.19.2-10: SNUSNU (Southern Nuclear Utilization Scheme Next-gen Update) 6 Aye, 1 Absent
S.19.2-24: TMTH FAPoSE Act 6  Aye, 1 Absent
S.19.2-25: PRAG-Co Act 5 Aye, 2 Absent
S.19.3-20: Southern Governor PMS Act 2 Labor, 1 ACP, 3 Abstain, No Federalist support in the chamber
S.19.3-21: Vexillological Symmetry Act 6 Aye, 1 Abstain
S.19.3-24: Chamber of Delegates Voting Clarity Amendment Passes 1 Vote from each party, 1 Abstain, 3 absent
S.19.3-15: Gambling Immorality Tax Act 5 Aye, 1 Nay, 1 Absent
S.19.3-15: Veto Override 6 Aye, 1 Nay

*edit (forgot to add S.19.3-15 GIT!)
I can also add TIJ Pro to this list. 1 Labor, 1 Peace, 1 ACP

So if anything, the one trying to be immune from criticism by avoiding it is yourself, Chairman.

I'll wait for you to put your "time to better use" Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2019, 04:04:11 am »

Fhtagn will be thrilled that this only passed because her Deputy abstained rather than voting Nay.

Fhtagn was well aware of my stance.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2019, 04:23:31 am »

Passing bills which everyone agrees with doesn't make you bipartisan. It just means you write bills about dull topics that everyone agrees on anyway.

LOL
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