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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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Reply #50 on:
April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 pm »
Check out this post on SSP:
http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428
Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 25, 2011, 03:27:23 pm »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 pm
Check out this post on SSP:
http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428
Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 25, 2011, 03:33:47 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 25, 2011, 03:27:23 pm
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 pm
Check out this post on SSP:
http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428
Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.
The only source I keep hearing from is that notpjorourke guy with his super-leet insider information, but I can believe that it was drawn to protect Cleaver from a primary challenge. I do think his "Cleaver would lose a general election in a Jackson County district" thing is BS, though.
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Dgov
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 25, 2011, 03:38:08 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on April 25, 2011, 03:27:23 pm
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 pm
Check out this post on SSP:
http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428
Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
Do you know if the bit about Cleaver's district is true? There must be a reason that they're excluding large sections of Jackson County and adding rural counties instead.
They might be more Republican. The rural territory it adds is only ~53% McCain, and it takes in Ike Skelton's home (which is probably the biggest reason). Also, i'm willing to bet the suburban area of Jackson county in the district is more reliably Republican than the rural areas that kept skelton in office.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 25, 2011, 04:03:49 pm »
Quote from: Dgov on April 25, 2011, 03:38:08 pm
They might be more Republican. The rural territory it adds is only ~53% McCain, and it takes in Ike Skelton's home (which is probably the biggest reason). Also, i'm willing to bet the suburban area of Jackson county in the district is more reliably Republican than the rural areas that kept skelton in office.
Could be. That's partially what leads me to believe that Nixon might actually sign the map, especially if Clay/Cleaver want him to.
Now that we're past the veto-override deadline, the GOP has another 2 weeks or so to get something passed.
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bloombergforpresident
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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Reply #55 on:
April 25, 2011, 04:22:26 pm »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 25, 2011, 02:01:34 pm
Check out this post on SSP:
http://swingstateproject.com/showComment.do?commentId=257428
Western St. Louis County is pretty Republican.
Yeah the area around Town and Country is but you can find some smaller suburbs that are more swing.
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BRTD
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 25, 2011, 04:44:01 pm »
LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.
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Dgov
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April 25, 2011, 05:56:00 pm »
Quote from: there is no structure that compares to my heart on April 25, 2011, 04:44:01 pm
LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.
Well, i think they were planning this map before they beat him in 2010, but either way its a safe move. No sense wasting republican votes in MO-5 when they can be used elsewhere.
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 26, 2011, 03:27:07 am »
Quote from: Dgov on April 25, 2011, 05:56:00 pm
Quote from: there is no structure that compares to my heart on April 25, 2011, 04:44:01 pm
LOL, are they seriously worried about a Skelton comeback? The guy is like 5000 years old.
Well, i think they were planning this map before they beat him in 2010
That's probably it.
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BRTD
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April 26, 2011, 09:39:41 pm »
It seems kind of silly to ever be concerned with him, just let him retire (it wouldn't have been long) and the seat would've been almost an automatic pickup.
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freepcrusher
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Reply #60 on:
April 26, 2011, 10:12:16 pm »
why did Skelton never run for higher office? He probably would have been a good candidate for Senate to replace Eagleton back in 86.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 27, 2011, 08:25:39 pm »
These idiots finally come to agreement.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/apr/27/redistricting-talks-resume-night-session/
Wonder if Nixon signs it with pressure from Cleaver.
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 28, 2011, 11:57:32 am »
Ze map:
MO-02 wouldn't be out of reach for a Democrat, I don't think (though it almost certainly voted McCain), but Carnahan is not the man to win that seat.
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krazen1211
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April 28, 2011, 12:37:27 pm »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 28, 2011, 11:57:32 am
Ze map:
MO-02 wouldn't be out of reach for a Democrat, I don't think (though it almost certainly voted McCain), but Carnahan is not the man to win that seat.
Yep. You could get an ironclad 6-2 map by sticking either CD-3 or CD-8 into St. Louis County to pick up ~100k swing voters, and giving CD-2 all of St. Charles, but the Republican rurals would throw a fit.
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 28, 2011, 08:51:19 pm »
I can't tell which district I'm in (I'm on the borderline of two)!!
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 11:15:01 am »
VETO
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BRTD
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 11:20:53 am »
Article also says they were 13 votes short of a veto-proof vote in the House.
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 11:34:59 am »
Good; he's leaving time for an override. At least 1 St. Louis black Democrat has already committed to doing so.
First 4 to step up to the plate get to draw their own House district.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 11:38:46 am »
If they draw their own district, it's not a veto override. It's a new map. I don't think there's time for that.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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JohnnyLongtorso
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 11:46:32 am »
Yeah, the article seems to imply that they either override the veto or it goes to the courts.
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brittain33
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 12:56:13 pm »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 30, 2011, 11:15:01 am
VETO
Wow, none of the Pubbies noticed that Nixon is
from
Jefferson County before they carved it up into three pieces?! What did they expect?
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Sibboleth
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 01:46:08 pm »
Quote from: brittain33 on April 30, 2011, 12:56:13 pm
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on April 30, 2011, 11:15:01 am
VETO
Wow, none of the Pubbies noticed that Nixon is
from
Jefferson County before they carved it up into three pieces?! What did they expect?
This is why I love redistricting.
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 02:16:14 pm »
There were nine members absent on the final vote, and the plan got nine fewer votes than there are Republicans. Even though three Democrats voted for it. So there must be some Republicans opposed to the thing?
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krazen1211
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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April 30, 2011, 02:52:39 pm »
Quote from: now it's time to overreact on April 30, 2011, 02:16:14 pm
There were nine members absent on the final vote, and the plan got nine fewer votes than there are Republicans. Even though three Democrats voted for it. So there must be some Republicans opposed to the thing?
A few, in the random rural counties that got dumped into MO-05. They can probably wrangle those back, then you just need 1 or 2 more Democrats.
The 3 way Jefferson split though is quite stupid. You might as well remove MO-02 from it entirely.
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timothyinMD
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Re: US House Redistricting: Missouri
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Reply #74 on:
April 30, 2011, 04:31:25 pm »
Partisan move by Nixon. Of course the map favors Republicans-- Missouri is a Republican state. We earned our 6-3 majority in the house delegation, and our huge majorities in the state legislature in Democrat drawn districts. It's not the legislative Republicans' fault that 48% of the states Democrat voters are packed into just 3 jurisdictions.
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