5 region maps

[Platypus]

The problems with these maps is that members will come from other states; and current membersd will become unactive. This is also the main benefit of ten-state maps, because they never have to change.

[minionofmidas]

There are currently 110 residents with over 18 posts. However, 8 of them don't have an avatar.

In this proposal, those without an avatar would not be allowed to vote.
New York/New England 21
Mid-Atlantic 21
Midwest 20
South 21
West 19

[dunn]

we should really  count the registred voters only

[minionofmidas]

The problems with these maps is that members will come from other states; and current membersd will become unactive. This is also the main benefit of ten-state maps, because they never have to change.

There is absolutely no reason to believe, though, that the Forum citizenry will one day resemble the US citizenry. Not as long as we Internationals can pick our avatars at any rate. There are currently 9 or 10 (I'm not sure about Emsworth) non-US-citizen registered voters. 6 or 7 of them are in DC and NW of that.
Two are on the West Coast. Gustaf is the only one in the South and Midwest.

[dunn]

 6 or 7 of them are in DC and NW of that.

you meant NE
?

[Gustaf]

I think I'm mostly with Hughento on this.

[7,052,770]

balanced by electoral votes and forum members

[Siege40]

I'm a little confused, I assuming that we held or are holding fantasy elections. If we are I'd like to know where on your nicely divided map of the United States I fit? (I'm Canadian.) I'd like to participate if I could and also could someone in general fill me in.

siege40@hotmail.com

Siege40

[Demrepdan]

As far as regions.....have we decided that there should be TEN states for every region or what? Or will we have one region with 9 states.....and another with 12....and another with 7.....

[7,052,770]

As far as regions.....have we decided that there should be TEN states for every region or what? Or will we have one region with 9 states.....and another with 12....and another with 7.....

There's no good way to do that fairly.
I think my plan is a good balance.

[12th Doctor]

I'm a little confused, I assuming that we held or are holding fantasy elections. If we are I'd like to know where on your nicely divided map of the United States I fit? (I'm Canadian.) I'd like to participate if I could and also could someone in general fill me in.

siege40@hotmail.com

Siege40

If you register, then you represent Michigan, unless you change your state.

[12th Doctor]

I think that TomatPitt should be taken off, since he hasn't posted in forever and he didn't vote in the last election.  If he becomes active again then we will just count him in again, but I don't think that he should be counted on for deciding regions at the moment.

[12th Doctor]

This map is based on voter registration in the Atlas.
The Southern, Western, and New York/New England regions have nine registered voters, the others have 10.

I'mnot accusing anyone of anything, but the way this map is drawn up definatly seems to favor the Democrats.  As near as I can tell, they would out poll us in every region INCLUDING the south.

[12th Doctor]

The Constitution also needs a census provision so that every 10 months we can re adjust the districts.

[7,052,770]

I think we should use my plan

[Platypus]

We can't just re4arrange the districts all the time, just like you can't rearrange states.

Once we have a plan, we need to stick to it.

In a day or so, I'll put up the poll of the ten top choices. if people could start by telling me what their top 10 are, that'd be good.

Remember, each person can only have one map on the poll, but you can list as many as you want from any person, just make sure you put the best one, in your opinion, first.

My list will be in my next post, I just want to review the choices

[12th Doctor]

We can't just re4arrange the districts all the time, just like you can't rearrange states.

Once we have a plan, we need to stick to it.

In a day or so, I'll put up the poll of the ten top choices. if people could start by telling me what their top 10 are, that'd be good.

Remember, each person can only have one map on the poll, but you can list as many as you want from any person, just make sure you put the best one, in your opinion, first.

My list will be in my next post, I just want to review the choices

(Dramatically pounds fist against podium)

No dammit!!!  We need a census that readjust districts.  It is the only way to insure that the elections are fair.

[Platypus]

ATM, we only have 11 proposals, so this is just a draft. There is still time to add proposals, and also for people to edit any votes they create now.

I think if we don't get over 15, I'll just make it a poll on the top five.

Points ill be allocated in this way: 12 points for a 1. vote, 10 for a number 2, 8 for 3, 7 for a 4, 6 for a 5, 5 for a 6, 4 for a 7, 3 for an 8, 2 for a 9 and 1 for a 10.

Here is my first draft, then:

1. Hughento-C
2. Gustaf-B
3. Hughento-A
4. Hughento-B
5. Harry-A
6. Lewis-A
7. Lewis-C
8. Miamiu-A
9. Lewis-B
10. Gustaf-A

of_this might have been good, but it was a six region map, so I thought that it wasn't in tune with the rules, and therefore had to ut Gustaf-A above it

[12th Doctor]

I have a new proposal.  Why not two sets of districts?  One set will be perminant and will NEVER change.  The other will be subject to change every Atlas Census (10 months)  The distrcits will be numbered1-10 and will each be represented by a Senator, but we will have representation for population and states (10 states in each).  I will create two maps to illustrate my point.

[Nation]

I agree with supersoulty on this one. Gotta have the ability to re-adjust districts.

[Platypus]

What if an elected official losing his state from the region he represents in the redistribution? That seems to me to be extremely unfair.

[12th Doctor]

These are not the acctual maps to use but I'm only making a point

This represents distrcicts 1-5.  Each has 10 states.  These don't change.



This represents our map based of the census (registered voters)  These would be subject to change as demographics shifted.  Districts 6-10




See what I mean?

[12th Doctor]

These are not the acctual maps to use but I'm only making a point

This represents distrcicts 1-5.  Each has 10 states.  These don't change.



This represents our map based of the census (registered voters)  These would be subject to change as demographics shifted.  Districts 6-10




See what I mean?

This way we kinda have a House and Senate representation, but in a uni-cameral body.

[12th Doctor]

What if an elected official losing his state from the region he represents in the redistribution? That seems to me to be extremely unfair.

Happens in real life all the time.  He will just have to run against the incubent then.  Also, no Senate primaries.  Just one election and then a run-off if no one breaks 50%

[Platypus]

But if he is the incumbent of region X, and is forced into region Y, he has significantly lower chance at election, and also his policies, mindset and opinions might not be the same in his new region at all (ie, if NJ was forced to go into the south region).

Whilst I recognise what you are saying, and think it is better then some of the other proposals, imho, I still see fatal flaws in shifting districts.