2013 Elections in Germany

[Silent Hunter]

This is going to be a long night...

[jaichind]

I think that Merkel said she regrets that FDP did not make it on ZDF TV. I am surprised that she has the time to go to ZDF studios to get interviewed.  You would think she would be deep in the CDU/CSU bunker looking over results and figuring out what to do.

[Andrea]

First constituency declared

Straubing in Bayern

Alois Rainer (CSU) elected

Turnout 64.4 (-0.

CSU 61.2 (+5.
SPD 17.6 (-4.9)
FW 3.5
AfD 3.3
Greens 3.2 (-0.7)
ODP 2.9
Linke 2.5 (-2.4)
FDP 2.4 (-5.4)
Pirates 1.7
NPD 1.7

Second vote

CSU 57.8 (+7.7)
SPD 16.1 (+1.9)
FDP 4.2 (-9.5)
AfD 3.9
Greens 3.9 (-1.4)
FW 3.8
Linke 3.0 (-3.5)
ODP 1.7
Pirates 1.5
NPD 1.4
BP 1.3

[jaichind]

From what I read, Steinbrueck will refuse to join government if CDU/CSU has majority on its own.

[minionofmidas]

First constituency is in - Straubing, in rural Bavaria.

Turnout 64.4 (-0.8), CSU 57.8 (+7.7), SPD 16.1 (+1.9), FDP 4.2 (-9.5), AfD 3.9, Greens 3.9 (-1.4), FW 3.8, Left 3.0 (-3.5). Direct seat won with 61.2
Goddam ninjas. Exterminate them all, is what I say.

[minionofmidas]

Wow, the airport is by now affecting even federal results.

This is Erzhausen, north of Darmstadt. This is for the Bundestag.

SPD 33.0 (+7.6), CDU 31.4 (+1.2), Greens 12.9 (-2.1), Left 6.9 (-0., AfD 6.5, FDP 4.6 (-12.3), Pirates 3.2 (+1.1)

Contrast those CDU and Left figures with what's happening elsewhere in West Germany... the AfD, of course, is at least not responsible for events unless CDU and FDP.

[minionofmidas]

God, the Berlin site is stupid. It shows current city-wide party standings on partial results... but not per constituency. Though it does show me how many precincts in what constituency are in.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I think that Merkel said she regrets that FDP did not make it on ZDF TV. I am surprised that she has the time to go to ZDF studios to get interviewed.  You would think she would be deep in the CDU/CSU bunker looking over results and figuring out what to do.

Not much she can do until there is a clearer picture.

As to governing as a minority government, wouldn't that be a possible scenario if AfD gets in? A few of them supports her chancellorship, and then her government negotiates with different parties for every Bundestag vote.  

[minionofmidas]

If the AfD is in then the CDU is not just a few seats off a majority. If the AfD is in, we're headed for a boring Grand Coalition and there is no suspense whatsoever.


And whatever ARD and ZDF may be saying... I'm putting their chances at getting in at over 50% by now. They're at 7% in Dresden with two thirds in, (just) over 5 in Frankfurt, at 6.6% in Ludwigshafen which is wholly in...

[eric82oslo]

FDP vote holding up surprisingly well in superposh urban precincts. Left holding up much much better in the city than in rural parts of the state.

Here's a precinct Al may remember... 441 08, the Platen estate

CDU 84 17,3 %
SPD 218 44,9 %
FDP 5 1,0 %
Greens 58 12,0 %
Left 84 17,3 %
Pirate 12 2,5 %
AfD 17 3,5 %

How come FDP is doing so miserably? Isn't they supposed to be the Liberal Party? Or have they become more far right? Are they considered to the right of CDU? I read somewhere that they were regarded as the (big) business party. Which surprised me as I thought that would be CDU? And normally liberal parties, or at least the European style social liberal parties, tend to be small business parties, not advocating the needs of big businesses, as that's the aim of the conservative parties, and to a lesser extent, the social democratic parties.

Or is the reason simply that their party leader is extremely unpopular? And why would that be? Does he simply lack any kind of charisma? Or is it his policy positions that are the problem?

I'm glad to see The Greens holding up fairly well.

[minionofmidas]

The FDP is not really a liberal party. It's a secular conservative party. And yes, very much the (well, the smallest of three ) big business party.

[minionofmidas]

Four more rural Bavarian constituency results in. Similar story, and AfD results about 4%. That may be a problem.

[jaichind]

Merkel rules out minority government.

[minionofmidas]

First nonbavarian district result - Pirmasens.

turnout 71.3 (+0.2), CDU 43.7 (+9.2), SPD 28.0 (+5.3), Left 6.5 (-6.8), FDP 5.1 (-10.3), Greens 4.7 (-1.9), AfD 4.3. Direct vote CDU 45.9 (+6.4), SPD 32.2 (+5.2)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

CDU hold Olpe - Märkischer Kreis I

[minionofmidas]

And AfD at 4.1. The AfD map is going to be looking a little odd, I think.

[jaichind]

ZDF projection.  CDU/CSU 42.3  SPD-Greene-Linke 42.4.  303 seats for both.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Berlin site is being a bit less sh!te now.

[jaichind]

Merkel said she is certain to serve a 4 year term.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

SPD hold Friesland-Wilhelmshaven-Wittmund

[Filuwaúrdjan]

SPD hold Aurich-Emden (sun sets in East, rises in West, etc) but with over 50% (just) this time.

[Hifly]

CDU gain Worms.

[Famous Mortimer]

The FDP has very few real supporters, when it does well, it's getting votes from CDU supporters. When the CDU is very popular like it is now, those supporters are less likely to cross over.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

CDU hold Chemnitz, SPD hold Gelsenkirchen.

[minionofmidas]

FDP still at 15.6% in West End South here. But behind the SPD. -_- (Rich people vote AfD too - 5.8%)