Democratic Leadership Elections

[Wisconsin SC Race 2019]

Any progressive that takes that deal will be a sell-out to their ideals.

[Tintrlvr]

Any progressive that takes that deal will be a sell-out to their ideals.

Yeah okay they should take advice from a Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

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lol the moderates are going to end up with no power what so ever.

Tim Ryan's only committee assignment will be the solid waste management sub-committee.

[Nyvin]

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lol the moderates are going to end up with no power what so ever.

Tim Ryan's only committee assignment will be the solid waste management sub-committee.

Aka emptying the trash baskets in the Democratic offices.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Just give up Hoyer for Richmond. I doubt Hoyer's support is particularly strong.

[henster]

I fear Pelosi has the same mindset as Feinstein and other fossils in Congress, they'll cling to power so long as they're alive and are only leaving Congress in a coffin. I think the rebels see this too, do you really think she's just going to retire after 2020 if Dems keep the House?

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https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKarenBass/status/1063113202970648578

Nancy Pelosi is going to be the next Speaker of the House. DEAL WITH IT!

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKarenBass/status/1063113202970648578

Nancy Pelosi is going to be the next Speaker of the House. DEAL WITH IT!

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https://mobile.twitter.com/benwikler/status/1063235456509321216

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Keep resisting unless it comes down to a republican vs Pelosi.

[USO2019PB]

The more I hear from the Pelosi haters, the more I support Pelosi.

Hope she mercilessly crushes the rabble and punishes them for their insolence.

[J. J.]

https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/1063202757262356481

What happens if the person the revolt puts up to replace Pelosi gets blocked on the floor by Pelosi allies (assuming we get to that point, which we likely won't)? Do we just keep going in circles?

Well, here are some possibilities:

1.  Multiple ballots until someone gets a majority, which could mean the GOP helping chose the Speaker. This happens if the anti-P forces put up a candidate.  The record is 133 rounds of voting and the last time it took multiple rounds was 1923 with 9 rounds.  https://history.house.gov/People/Office/Speakers-Multiple-Ballots/  someone eventually gets a majority.

2.  The anti-P forces abstain.  (R is the total number of GOP votes, e.g. a 230 D/ 205 R split, R would be 205)

2a.  The abstentions are less than R-1.  Pelosi is elected.

2b.  If Pelosi gets less that total R vote, the GOP organizes the House.

3. Pelosi gets a plurality (the most votes) but less than a majority (more than half of the votes cast).  A point of order is raised that a plurality elects.  Whatever the chair's decision, it will be appealed and a majority decides that a plurality elects.  This would involve some of the members opposing her (either or both anti-P's or R's) voting to permit a plurality to elect.

4. A sufficient number of Republicans abstain to give Pelosi the majority. Example, the split is 230 D/ 205 R.  40 D's vote for an anti-P candidate, so that Pelosi gets 190 votes.  56 R's abstain (Pelosi 190+ Anti-P 40 +149 R = 379 total.  A majority of 379 (any number greater than 379/2) is any number greater than 189.5. Pelosi has a majority as 190 is greater than 189.5.  This would involve the R's aiding, indirectly, Pelosi's election.   

I think that the most likely possibilities are Pelosi winning a majority without abstentions/other votes (i.e. she gets to 218), 2a and 4, in that order.  2b is the least likely possibility (and would be almost suicidal for the Democratic Party). 

[Zaybay]

Wow, that was some master playing by Pelosi. Not only did she just secure her speakership position, she also just secured the loyalty of the Progressives, and threw the Moderate Dems that opposed her, such as Seth Moulton and Tim Ryan, to the curb.

Impressive. Not only does it dissuade rebellion, but it rewards loyalty. Sounds like something Genghis Khan would do.

[ON Progressive]

Wow, that was some master playing by Pelosi. Not only did she just secure her speakership position, she also just secured the loyalty of the Progressives, and threw the Moderate Dems that opposed her, such as Seth Moulton and Tim Ryan, to the curb.

Impressive.

She did that in the best way too. I am enjoying Seth Moulton/Tim Ryan getting dunked on myself.

I actually think we should primary Seth Moulton, and maybe Tim Ryan (more apprehensive on that because Ryan’s district is trending Republican very fast)

[Zaybay]

Wow, that was some master playing by Pelosi. Not only did she just secure her speakership position, she also just secured the loyalty of the Progressives, and threw the Moderate Dems that opposed her, such as Seth Moulton and Tim Ryan, to the curb.

Impressive.

She did that in the best way too. I am enjoying Seth Moulton/Tim Ryan getting dunked on myself.

I actually think we should primary Seth Moulton, and maybe Tim Ryan (more apprehensive on that because Ryan’s district is trending Republican very fast)

It would be hard, but both are rather possible, though Seth is definitely more possible than Tim. But I am glad to see Pelosi keep her position, I may disagree with her on some positions, but she is clearly better than the Moderate alternative. Now that she is supporting the CPC fully, she has my full support!

[Storr]

Wow, that was some master playing by Pelosi. Not only did she just secure her speakership position, she also just secured the loyalty of the Progressives, and threw the Moderate Dems that opposed her, such as Seth Moulton and Tim Ryan, to the curb.

Impressive.

She did that in the best way too. I am enjoying Seth Moulton/Tim Ryan getting dunked on myself.

I actually think we should primary Seth Moulton, and maybe Tim Ryan (more apprehensive on that because Ryan’s district is trending Republican very fast)

She also did it in a way that did not harm freshmen that pledged during their campaigns to not support her. I feel she knew they couldn't suddenly vote for her after getting elected, and that their promises weren't personal attacks on her.

[YE]

Pelosi hasn't even won yet so don't jump the gun. With that said, if she's full behind the CPC agenda, I'd switch my support from Tim Ryan to her but hopefully Hoyer and/or Clyburn get dumped. Hopefully Bustos gets elected to the DCCC as well.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Moulton seems to be a Trump-level idiot.

https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1063443409212456960

[Zaybay]

Glad that Tim Ryan and Seth Moulton are likely to be relegated to the Democratic Dustbin at this point. Serves them right for such underhanded tactics.

[Yank2133]

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/nancy-pelosi-speaker-fight-757178/

Moulton sounds like an atlas poster.

[ON Progressive]

Moulton seems to be a Trump-level idiot.

https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1063443409212456960

The most hilarious part is that this isn't even remotely true. Democrats were at 202 seats when she started, and will probably end up at 233 (I think Cisneros and Brindisi will win, not sure about McAdams).

[Landslide Lyndon]

Tim Ryan, progressive hero.

[beesley]

Moulton seems to be a Trump-level idiot.

https://twitter.com/benyc/status/1063443409212456960

Moulton is either a Trump-level idiot, or someone who is very bad at political grandstanding.

[YE]

The comment from Tim Ryan seems normal to me. What am I missing here?

[Yank2133]

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Caving.

Pelosi will allow Fudge to pick off the menu and that should be the end of that.