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« Reply #400 on: October 07, 2018, 05:14:26 PM »

Deal and Perdue (lol @ Mr Racial Gaffe Master standing a chance there now) won Gwinnett by 8 in ‘14. Isakson won it by not quite 4 in ‘16 while Clinton won it by about 6. Could Abrams get it to over 5? Especially with her Latino / Asian outreach? Either way, I see Isakson being the last R to win there for a long time. Especially with Kemp, Trump , and Perdue being on the ticket over the next cycle.

Unless her performance in rural GA as a whole is unprecedentedly strong, she'll likely need to win Gwinnett by double-digits (or damn near it) to have a chance at winning a majority.

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Could you add these to the main post? Other users and myself may be looking for them when the day of reckoning is upon us.

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« Reply #401 on: October 07, 2018, 05:19:31 PM »

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« Reply #402 on: October 07, 2018, 08:48:33 PM »



Not really posting to dissect this, but this never happened before? LOL. Seems like a no-brainer to run ads for Governor when a lot of people from your state would be tuned in.
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« Reply #403 on: October 07, 2018, 10:18:18 PM »



Not really posting to dissect this, but this never happened before? LOL. Seems like a no-brainer to run ads for Governor when a lot of people from your state would be tuned in.
Yeah, I actually saw her ad. I was shocked lol.

That's a bold move.
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« Reply #404 on: October 07, 2018, 10:26:56 PM »

Yeah, I actually saw her ad. I was shocked lol.

That's a bold move.

What ad was it?
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« Reply #405 on: October 07, 2018, 10:31:52 PM »

https://youtu.be/ZaWT224ZvN0
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« Reply #406 on: October 07, 2018, 10:49:48 PM »

Yeah, I actually saw her ad. I was shocked lol.

That's a bold move.

What ad was it?
It was just a generic campaign ad. She had some people basically say that Brian Kemp is crazy and then made a little statement at the end.
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« Reply #407 on: October 07, 2018, 11:45:04 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2018, 11:48:50 PM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

Good to see some persuasion strategy utilized here. I'd wager the reason nobody's ever ran an ad on this channel/for this game before is because even persuasion-minded Democratic campaigns of the past considered baseball watchers too old and too white to be reasoned with, lol.



And BTW, I saw this ad on TV during primetime in the Chattanooga media market for the first time a few days ago. Prior to that, there had been no Abrams ads running here in the general. I guess this is the "white ad" that they're running to pitch to very conservative/white audiences.
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« Reply #408 on: October 08, 2018, 06:50:54 PM »

Georgia Votes now has a feature that breaks down the vote by each individual county.

For example, here's what it says about Newton County where I live:

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When it comes to gender right now females have outvoted males 59.3-39.2 and by race blacks have outvoted whites 68.4-19.6

So Abrams is more than likely KILLING it here right now. Tongue
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« Reply #409 on: October 08, 2018, 07:13:28 PM »

Georgia Votes now has a feature that breaks down the vote by each individual county.

For example, here's what it says about Newton County where I live:

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When it comes to gender right now females have outvoted males 59.3-39.2 and by race blacks have outvoted whites 68.4-19.6

So Abrams is more than likely KILLING it here right now. Tongue
When do the debates start?
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« Reply #410 on: October 08, 2018, 07:28:12 PM »

Georgia Votes now has a feature that breaks down the vote by each individual county.

For example, here's what it says about Newton County where I live:

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When it comes to gender right now females have outvoted males 59.3-39.2 and by race blacks have outvoted whites 68.4-19.6

So Abrams is more than likely KILLING it here right now. Tongue
When do the debates start?


I think there are two, Oct. 23 for the Atlanta Press Club and Nov. 4 for WSB-TV.
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« Reply #411 on: October 08, 2018, 08:43:27 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2018, 08:47:47 PM by Fmr. Pres. Griff »

So glad they finally added the county breakdowns! There are a few errors in his data (for example, I noticed there are no votes recorded for Muscogee, when in fact, there are a handful) and the figures may be behind by a day or so, but nevertheless, great.

I've mapped out the percentages for each county in terms of how much higher or lower they are when compared to 2014. Click on the link below to explore each county's figures (click on a county for info). It's kind of hard to pick a gradient that shows the distinction between counties since the variance is so massive, but alas:

VBM By County (% Higher/Lower Than 2014) - As Of 10/8



And here's a list of the county figures in simple format:

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COUNTY		% Higher/Lower Than 2014
Macon 2166.7
Hancock 1900
Jackson 1472.7
Early        1342.9
Johnson 1225
Clay        1200
Baker 1100
Thomas 727.3
Jefferson 641.7
Pulaski 520
Decatur 519
Clayton 518.7
Lowndes 500
Whitfield 468.2
Calhoun 460
Franklin 360
Camden 347.8
Lamar 335.3
Upson 320.7
Butts        291.3
Rockdale 287.8
Henry 281.3
Douglas 272
Meriwether 270
Houston 267.6
Cobb        264.2
Taliaferro 250
Laurens 248.6
Crawford 242.9
Elbert 238.3
Bartow 231.4
Spalding 228.8
Crisp        222.7
Paulding 218.8
Ben Hill 215.4
Washington       214.3
Lee        200
Emanuel 196
Forsyth 194.4
Mitchell 186.2
DeKalb 185.6
Colquitt 182.6
Barrow 182.5
Dodge 182.4
Toombs 182.4
Newton 178
Gwinnett 174.6
Oconee 173.5
Cherokee 168.8
Wilkes 168.4
Screven 166.7
Fulton 165.4
Glascock 160
Monroe 160
Rabun 159.2
Effingham 157.8
Bulloch 156.9
Union 153.6
Grady 150
Randolph 149
Bacon 146.2
Baldwin 139.4
Clarke 136.9
Chatham 136.4
Cook        135.5
Harris 134
Richmond 128.7
Irwin        120
Lincoln 111.1
Appling 110.6
Jasper 110
Tift        107.3
Bryan 105.3
Wilkinson 104
Echols 100
Talbot 100
Walker 100
Carroll 97.8
Tattnall 97.4
Catoosa 97.2
Floyd 92.4
Warren 91.7
Walton 89.8
Evans 89.5
Hart        89.3
Lanier 87.5
Glynn 81.1
Morgan 79.4
Pierce 76.5
Fannin 76.3
Berrien 73
Wilcox 71
Gordon 70.9
Heard 67.4
Dawson 65.9
Polk        58.7
Columbia 50
Oglethorpe 50
Banks 47.6
Haralson 47.1
Coweta 46.4
Stephens 45.1
Gilmer 42.3
Charlton 41.7
Miller 40
Sumter 38.5
McIntosh 38
Lumpkin 37.8
Schley 33.3
Bleckley 31.9
Quitman 28.6
Troup 26.8
Brooks 25.4
Brantley 23.1
Montgomery 23.1
Towns 22.2
Terrell 19.3
Dade        16.7
McDuffie 7.2
Jones 6.9
Putnam 1.6
Marion -3.4
Burke -7.1
Madison -7.2
Bibb        -10.9
Worth -12
Twiggs -12.1
Clinch -12.5
Greene -18.4
Jeff Davis -23.1
Fayette -26.2
Pike        -30.4
Dooly -33.3
Jenkins -33.3
Chattooga -35.5
White -40.5
Stewart -50
Seminole -53.8
Hall        -54.3
Taylor -55.6
Murray -74.2
Peach -87.5
Ware        -90.8
Wheeler -97.2
Wayne -98
Atkinson -100
Candler -100
Chattahoochee -100
Coffee -100
Dougherty -100
Habersham -100
Liberty -100
Long        -100
Muscogee -100
Pickens -100
Telfair -100
Treutlen -100
Turner -100
Webster -100



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« Reply #412 on: October 08, 2018, 08:53:57 PM »

And to make it a bit simpler to look at, here are the VBM percentage shifts between 2014 and 2018 only for counties with more than 50,000 people:

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COUNTY	% Higher/Lower Than 2014
Jackson 1472.7
Clayton 518.7
Lowndes 500
Whitfield 468.2
Camden 347.8
Rockdale 287.8
Henry 281.3
Douglas 272
Houston 267.6
Cobb        264.2
Bartow 231.4
Spalding 228.8
Paulding 218.8
Forsyth 194.4
DeKalb 185.6
Barrow 182.5
Newton 178
Gwinnett 174.6
Cherokee 168.8
Fulton 165.4
Effingham 157.8
Bulloch 156.9
Clarke 136.9
Chatham 136.4
Richmond 128.7
Walker 100
Carroll 97.8
Catoosa 97.2
Floyd 92.4
Walton 89.8
Glynn 81.1
Gordon 70.9
Columbia 50
Coweta 46.4
Troup 26.8
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Bibb        -10.9
Fayette -26.2
Hall        -54.3
Muscogee -100
Dougherty -100
Liberty -100

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« Reply #413 on: October 08, 2018, 08:57:33 PM »

And to make it a bit simpler to look at, here are the VBM percentage shifts between 2014 and 2018 only for counties with more than 50,000 people:

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COUNTY	% Higher/Lower Than 2014
Jackson 1472.7
Clayton 518.7
Lowndes 500
Whitfield 468.2
Camden 347.8
Rockdale 287.8
Henry 281.3
Douglas 272
Houston 267.6
Cobb        264.2
Bartow 231.4
Spalding 228.8
Paulding 218.8
Forsyth 194.4
DeKalb 185.6
Barrow 182.5
Newton 178
Gwinnett 174.6
Cherokee 168.8
Fulton 165.4
Effingham 157.8
Bulloch 156.9
Clarke 136.9
Chatham 136.4
Richmond 128.7
Walker 100
Carroll 97.8
Catoosa 97.2
Floyd 92.4
Walton 89.8
Glynn 81.1
Gordon 70.9
Columbia 50
Coweta 46.4
Troup 26.8
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Bibb        -10.9
Fayette -26.2
Hall        -54.3
Muscogee -100
Dougherty -100
Liberty -100



What's up in Jackson County?  Did it have a very low prior to cause that ridiculous spike?
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« Reply #414 on: October 08, 2018, 08:58:37 PM »

And to make it a bit simpler to look at, here are the VBM percentage shifts between 2014 and 2018 only for counties with more than 50,000 people:

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COUNTY	% Higher/Lower Than 2014
Jackson 1472.7
Clayton 518.7
Lowndes 500
Whitfield 468.2
Camden 347.8
Rockdale 287.8
Henry 281.3
Douglas 272
Houston 267.6
Cobb         264.2
Bartow 231.4
Spalding 228.8
Paulding 218.8
Forsyth 194.4
DeKalb 185.6
Barrow 182.5
Newton 178
Gwinnett 174.6
Cherokee 168.8
Fulton 165.4
Effingham 157.8
Bulloch 156.9
Clarke 136.9
Chatham 136.4
Richmond 128.7
Walker 100
Carroll 97.8
Catoosa 97.2
Floyd 92.4
Walton 89.8
Glynn 81.1
Gordon 70.9
Columbia 50
Coweta 46.4
Troup 26.8
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Bibb         -10.9
Fayette -26.2
Hall         -54.3
Muscogee -100
Dougherty -100
Liberty -100



What's up in Jackson County?  Did it have a very low prior to cause that ridiculous spike?

Apparently only around 15 people had voted by mail at this point in Jackson in 2014 (compared to 174 as of today).
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« Reply #415 on: October 08, 2018, 08:58:42 PM »

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« Reply #416 on: October 08, 2018, 09:04:30 PM »

According to Georgia Vote, racial shares of the electorate shifted in favor of non-white gains over the weekend. An additional 2,733 valid votes were received compared to yesterday (which seems pretty low for a 3-day period, but I'm not sure if a lot of the county boards are closed today for "state holiday"; today's accepted ballot total (returned minus rejected) stands at 31,730 votes.

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White	14108	44.5% (-0.6)
Black 13305 41.9% (+0.4)
Latino 700           2.2%  (0.0)
Asian 924          2.9%  (+0.1)
Other 2693          8.5%  (+0.1)

Female 18497 58.4% (-0.1)
Male 12740 40.2% (+0.1)
Unknown 493         1.6%   (+0.1)

18-29 1886 5.9%   (0.0)
30-39 1601 5.0%   (0.0)
40-49 2347 7.4%   (+0.2)
50-64 7020 22.1%  (+0.1)
65+         18430        58.1%  (-0.4)
Unknown   446         1.4%   (0.0)
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« Reply #417 on: October 08, 2018, 09:05:49 PM »

Whitfield's gone up massively, damn.
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« Reply #418 on: October 08, 2018, 09:13:43 PM »

So with the update GeorgiaVotes just pushed right after I calculated these figures, the county percentages have changed considerably. It appears that a lot (if not all) of the counties' percentages relative to 2014 have went down quite a bit. That's because today was a state holiday and their boards of election were closed, whereas in 2014, Columbus Day didn't fall on October 8 (I believe GeorgiaVotes is using a day-to-day method, rather than a "nth day of early voting" method).

So don't be surprised if you click on a county on their page and the percentages are different. I imagine the percentages will go back up considerably tomorrow when all of these ballots from the long weekend are counted. Likewise, the percentages will undoutedly spike on October 13 (which was when Columbus Day was in 2014; you can even see the flatlining of votes for 10/13 on the GeorgiaVotes website from 2014 because of the effect it had).
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« Reply #419 on: October 08, 2018, 09:19:16 PM »

Whitfield's gone up massively, damn.

Glorious news! One thing we've been making sure to do during canvassing for the past 5-6 weeks is to pass out absentee ballot applications (even though they weren't officially part of "the script"), so hopefully that's helping at least a bit along with all of the other statewide VBM pushes.
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« Reply #420 on: October 08, 2018, 11:03:36 PM »


"Brian Kemp pointed a gun at a teenager in his own ad. Who does that?!"

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« Reply #421 on: October 09, 2018, 12:07:00 AM »

My pick for Senate targets: 9, 32, 40, 48, 56
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« Reply #422 on: October 09, 2018, 02:48:47 AM »

Something's been bothering me for the last few days as I keep looking at these VBM totals. Now, it could be totally innocuous or just a simple coincidence, but when you look at the map of VBM shifts relative to 2014, you see there's a lot of heavily-white rural South GA counties where no ballots (or just a literal handful) have been sent out yet. While most of these counties are much whiter than most the rest of Georgia, they do still have relatively sizable minority populations in many.

At first my reaction was "Glorious News!", because presumably you lower even GOP vote totals when you restrict ballot access in heavily-GOP areas. However, I'm starting to wonder if there's a bit of a concerted effort in these counties to delay VBM as much as possible, especially after seeing the huge surges of minority participation. Hell, they may have hundreds of applications sitting on their desks that they've looked through, and realize there's a veritable electoral coup in progress.

In addition to rural South GA, you're also seeing this in Bibb/Macon, Muscogee/Columbus and Dougherty/Albany. One would think these election boards would be controlled by real Democrats, but given their longstanding Democratic dominance and the fact that the good ol' boy system held very extensive power in these cities even just a decade or two ago...I don't know.

(For what it's worth, I think that if this is at least somewhat the cause, the reason you're not seeing these kinds of delays in heavily-GOP North GA is because historically, there haven't been large minority populations and therefore the blatant acts of voter suppression and racial polarization that exist elsewhere in the state have never been prominent or prevalent here)
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« Reply #423 on: October 09, 2018, 08:39:39 AM »

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« Reply #424 on: October 09, 2018, 08:51:18 AM »


Very impressive considering that the absentee ballots returned so far are skewing old. This is good news for Abrams who in most polling leads in all age groups other than 65+. I think the participation from AA 2014 non-voters will grow as younger voters (18-64) start doing in-person early voting next week.
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