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« Reply #200 on: March 03, 2012, 02:41:30 pm »
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Quote from: Antonio V on March 02, 2012, 04:21:28 am
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Sorry, I was taking a break from policy Smiley

I support the policy on health care.  I think we should move onto the next plank.
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« Reply #201 on: March 03, 2012, 05:09:13 pm »
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Sorry, I was taking a break form policy Smiley

I support the policy on health care.  I think we should move onto the next plank.
Same here
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« Reply #202 on: March 03, 2012, 06:08:37 pm »
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Health care should indeed be universal, free and publicly run.

I think our next policy priority should be taxation (after all, we can't have any effective government program without a well-functioning fiscal system). I'd go with something like this.

The Labor Party believe in the necessity of a substantial taxation. Taxes are a necessity in order for the government to establish public services and run them to the benefits of all, but they also have an intrinsecal positive value as a mean of redistribution and social solidarity. That's why the fiscal system shall be based on the principle of progressivity : every citizen should contribute depending on their means. The core of the fiscal system shall be a highly progressive Income Tax, with the highest marginal rate reaching a level superior to three quarters. Capital gains shall be included into the income tax, because it is unacceptable that stockholders be exempt of the taxes paid by the workers. Other sources of revenues (consumption taxes, corporate taxes, wealth taxes) might be established, but the main revenue shall still come from the taxation of incomes. Inheritances shall be subjected to taxation as progressive or more progressive than regular incomes. Tax loopholes might have some utility, but they should be capped so that they don't become a way for wealthy people to avoid contributing to the public wealth as they should. Finally, tax evasion and fraud must be fought restlessly, and the State authorities in charge of this task shall be heavily funded and equipped.
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« Reply #203 on: March 04, 2012, 04:11:18 pm »
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30 hour work week? 5*6 or 4*7.5
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« Reply #204 on: March 04, 2012, 05:01:30 pm »
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I'd support 5*6 with a guaranteed one-hour lunch break. Say 10-1 and 2-5, or 9-12 and 1-4?

I'm not wedded to the length of the lunch break but it has to be at least half an hour.
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« Reply #205 on: March 10, 2012, 02:57:12 pm »
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Looks like Earl is losing in at-large Senate election... This can't be good. The right-winger turnout is strong with that one.
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« Reply #206 on: March 10, 2012, 04:39:35 pm »
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Guys, can we get something to Dallasfan for the Introduction to Atlasia 2.0 thread?
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« Reply #207 on: March 10, 2012, 04:58:48 pm »
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Uh looks like I missed Oakvale's candidacy too Sad So yeah vote Oakvale and Earl guys.
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« Reply #208 on: March 10, 2012, 05:01:10 pm »
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Btw I am thinking of running for something this summer. What would be a doable entry-level position for me(Pacific residency)?
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« Reply #209 on: March 10, 2012, 05:10:41 pm »
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Btw I am thinking of running for something this summer. What would be a doable entry-level position for me(Pacific residency)?

Lieutenant Governor is a position with a noble history.





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« Reply #210 on: March 10, 2012, 06:19:38 pm »
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It's not unheard of for first-time office seekers to be elected to the Senate.
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« Reply #211 on: March 11, 2012, 05:39:38 am »
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It's not unheard of for first-time office seekers to be elected to the Senate.

Please don't remind me about Senator Mint. Tongue
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« Reply #212 on: March 18, 2012, 07:06:25 am »
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Guys, don't let this party die...
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« Reply #213 on: March 18, 2012, 09:36:13 am »
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If I'm eligible to join (just recognized in the Census yesterday), I support what we've been doing so far. We appear to have only done health care and education, though.
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« Reply #214 on: March 18, 2012, 08:06:35 pm »
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Perhaps we should do guns.
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« Reply #215 on: March 19, 2012, 05:00:29 pm »
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I think we should cover all the economic issues first. Have we done trade yet?
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« Reply #216 on: March 20, 2012, 07:39:59 am »
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i don't believe so.
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« Reply #217 on: March 20, 2012, 03:21:18 pm »
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I feel like we should oppose any future free trade agreements that might be in the pipeline, but should we oppose them in general, or oppose them absent guarantees that the other countries entering into the agreement would adopt decent labor relations policies? Using trade to get other countries to move from capital towards labor seems to me like one of the worthiest things this party could possibly do, but I'd like you guys' input as well.
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« Reply #218 on: March 20, 2012, 06:06:42 pm »
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Well, I don't see a problem with free trade as long as it's not used to hurt workers. If we can make  good labor relations conditional to free trade, then I'd be okay with that. Should we take a vote? Yes.

OK:

Is it the will of the assembled representatives of the Party that we adopt conditional support for free trade as part of the platform? I vote yes.
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« Reply #219 on: March 20, 2012, 06:41:17 pm »
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I vote yes, with the statement that 'CONDITIONAL' should be in big fat red letters.
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« Reply #220 on: March 20, 2012, 07:41:39 pm »
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Well, I don't see a problem with free trade as long as it's not used to hurt workers. If we can make  good labor relations CONDITIONAL to free trade, then I'd be okay with that. Should we take a vote? Yes.

OK:

Is it the will of the assembled representatives of the Party that we adopt conditional support for free trade as part of the platform? I vote yes.
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« Reply #221 on: March 20, 2012, 09:13:26 pm »
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Is it the will of the assembled representatives of the Party that we adopt conditional support for free trade as part of the platform? I vote yes.

I wasn't hyaku parcento serious.

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Is it the will of the assembled representatives of the Party that we adopt support for conditional free trade as part of the platform? I vote yes.

It's my sense that it should be free trade that's conditional that we're supporting, rather than supporting free trade but doing so conditionally. It's a subtle difference but emphasizing that the free trade is conditional is, I think, important.
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« Reply #222 on: March 21, 2012, 02:52:03 pm »
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It's my sense that it should be free trade that's conditional that we're supporting, rather than supporting free trade but doing so conditionally. It's a subtle difference but emphasizing that the free trade is conditional is, I think, important.
As in fair trade being the norm instead of a policy only for cushioning against backwards oppressistans?
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« Reply #223 on: March 21, 2012, 03:58:17 pm »
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Why has everyone ignored my proposal regarding taxes ?
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« Reply #224 on: March 21, 2012, 05:50:38 pm »
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As long as free trade doesn't abuse working class, it's ok. But it always does.
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