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« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2019, 03:03:41 PM »
« edited: December 12, 2019, 03:31:57 PM by Oryxslayer »

Boris Johnson didn't vote for himself...because he voted in at his Downing Street address.

And at this rate, that might matter!



The dream is alive, boys

Don't trust rumors unless you can actually see the votes. For all we know, this could be expectation setting, Gevelt, or just wanting to pad the margin. Other threads on this forum are littered with the messages of posters who were fooled by GOP insiders and their rumors.
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« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2019, 03:05:40 PM »

https://twitter.com/bridiepjones/status/1205189171196911623

Looks like stopping young people from voting happens not just in America!
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« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2019, 03:09:55 PM »

Boris Johnson didn't vote for himself...because he voted in at his Downing Street address.

And at this rate, that might matter!



The dream is alive, boys

Don't trust rumors unless you can actually see the votes. For all we know, this could be expectation setting, Gevelt, or just wanting to pad the margin. Other threads on this forum are littered with the messages of poster who were fooled by GOP insiders and their rumors.

Hear, hear! I'd also note that this 'source' is a Sky News Australia  - yes, *Australia* - presenter.

I wouldn't put it past the Tories to have fed her a line to spread rumours just now so they could circumvent UK election disclosure laws. In any case, ignore it all.
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« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2019, 03:11:47 PM »




The dream is alive, boys

That has 'expectations management' written all over it
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« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2019, 03:14:16 PM »




The dream is alive, boys

That has 'expectations management' written all over it
This. It probably does suggest that the result may be somewhat closer than the MRP projections were showing, which is not impossible given that they can't deal with local factors.
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« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2019, 03:18:47 PM »

Watching UK elections is like watching a competition show. This country basically invented the modern way we do politics in the West, so every one of their elections is historic. (even if they're embarrassing themselves with brexit and boris nowadays)

Too bad David Dimbleby isn't around anymore to open the broadcast with "this is the most exciting election in years" for the 3937th consecutive time.

Given that British elections are typically spaced 4-5 years apart, and almost never less than 2 years, wouldn't this actually be true of the vast majority of elections?
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« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2019, 03:21:44 PM »

Rumours before the close of poll are generally completely baseless.
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« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2019, 03:26:32 PM »

Watching UK elections is like watching a competition show. This country basically invented the modern way we do politics in the West, so every one of their elections is historic. (even if they're embarrassing themselves with brexit and boris nowadays)

Too bad David Dimbleby isn't around anymore to open the broadcast with "this is the most exciting election in years" for the 3937th consecutive time.

Given that British elections are typically spaced 4-5 years apart, and almost never less than 2 years, wouldn't this actually be true of the vast majority of elections?

What if they pull an Israel and start having elections every few months now… In fact, have one for every holiday! The oven ready christmas election, the Irish border centered St. Patricks day election, the "my opponent is the most ghoulish!" halloween election….And on and on!
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« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2019, 03:33:36 PM »

Nothing's better than Atlas on the day of a big election before polls close!
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« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2019, 03:35:36 PM »

Yas, BBC is bringing the giant 'steppingstone' hexmap back.

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« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2019, 03:41:29 PM »

Yas, BBC is bringing the giant 'steppingstone' hexmap back.


Ugh. These hexmaps are horrible to look at. I prefer the Electoral Calculus 'equal area' map, as it holds the shape of the country together better: link
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« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2019, 03:48:59 PM »

Yas, BBC is bringing the giant 'steppingstone' hexmap back.


Ugh. These hexmaps are horrible to look at. I prefer the Electoral Calculus 'equal area' map, as it holds the shape of the country together better: link

Unfortunately we will just have to agree to disagree then.

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« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2019, 04:04:44 PM »

Hearing and reading that the weather is dreadful - hard cold wins plus constant rain - in the midlands.

Isn't the impact of bad weather on turnout grossly exaggerated?
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« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2019, 04:06:48 PM »

Sky News Coverage has now started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE
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« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2019, 04:06:50 PM »

Hearing and reading that the weather is dreadful - hard cold wins plus constant rain - in the midlands.

Isn't the impact of bad weather on turnout grossly exaggerated?

Yes but it does have a small effect, especially when combo'ed with limited daylight and a poor baseline temperature to begin with
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« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2019, 04:07:38 PM »

Hearing and reading that the weather is dreadful - hard cold wins plus constant rain - in the midlands.

Isn't the impact of bad weather on turnout grossly exaggerated?

Not only that, but there's no particular reason to think it helps any particular group; I can think of plenty of 'just so' stories of inclement weather hurting Labour or the Conservatives.
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« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2019, 04:09:47 PM »

Perhaps the biggest drop-off in turnout will be with the Labour Leaver types who are dissatisfied with the choices on offer anyway, unclear how these people would vote, maybe some go Labour, some go Tory and some go Brexit and some go to random other parties.
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« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2019, 04:10:27 PM »

Hearing and reading that the weather is dreadful - hard cold wins plus constant rain - in the midlands.

Isn't the impact of bad weather on turnout grossly exaggerated?

Yes but it does have a small effect, especially when combo'ed with limited daylight and a poor baseline temperature to begin with
Just another reason vote by mail should be worldwide.
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« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2019, 04:14:31 PM »

So it seems like Britain suffers from the same fever dream anecdotes and rumors on day of election
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« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2019, 04:18:37 PM »

Boris Johnson didn't vote for himself...because he voted in at his Downing Street address.

And at this rate, that might matter!



The dream is alive, boys

Sounds like expectation setting in case Johnson is kept to an underwhelming margin. If the Conservatives are indeed the largest party by a fair bit, then he should be fine.
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« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2019, 04:20:33 PM »

Yas, BBC is bringing the giant 'steppingstone' hexmap back.


Ugh. These hexmaps are horrible to look at. I prefer the Electoral Calculus 'equal area' map, as it holds the shape of the country together better: link

Unfortunately we will just have to agree to disagree then.
At least you're map has constituency names on it so you can actually find constituencies quite easily. Smiley
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« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2019, 04:22:49 PM »

Remember not to infer anything universal from the first Northeast constituencies. These hard Leave seats with a long history of Labour support have brethren demographically, some of whom are on the front lines, but they do not speak for the entire country. Seats and regions have different demographics, and they may move differently. In the past 5 years, the Northeast has done their own thing in contrast to the rest of the country. So be wary of inferring too much from Sunderland and Newcastle beyond their general neighbors in the north.
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« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2019, 04:29:19 PM »

Yes, yes, it's all expectation setting and the rumors are worthless — nevertheless, there is nothing better to do for the next half-hour or so. Might as well have fun with it!

I mean, Sky has John Bercow on TV, and they're making him watch a skit of his "greatest hits" with puppets. Now he's talking about memes.
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« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »

If you want to carry on with more general discussion about the UK politics during the election, please use the old thread. This one is for results and result-related discussion only.
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« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2019, 04:43:10 PM »

Does anyone have a BBC stream?
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