UK General Election 2019 - Election Day and Results Thread

[Dr. MB]

Boris is a conman who’s apparently done his job. Good luck Britain. You’ll need it.

[Oryxslayer]

Yep it's going to be a classic #Globaltrend night. London and her enviorns are moving against Boris, the North is in love with him.

Normally I like to poo poo this kind of thing, but the idea that Labour can hold Cardiff North (a historic Welsh marginal won twice by the Tories in recent times) on such a large projected swing is astonishing, and can only be explained by a genuine, partial realignment on Remain v Leave lines.

I hate the Global trends meme...but it wouldn't be a meme if it wasn't a thing. If Blyth is flipping to the Tories, but Putney and Finchney are projected to be flipping away from them, it's the unfortunately the only rational response.

[Dr. MB]

a better word for “global trends” is “English speaking world trends”

[Tintrlvr]

a better word for “global trends” is “English speaking world trends”

Some non-Anglophone countries have shown similar movement. France and Italy, to name some prominent ones.

[Silent Hunter]

Ian Levy, the new Tory MP for Blyth Valley, is apparently an NHS worker specialising in mental health. Take that one on board.

if there is going to be a Red Wedding in the North, then you might get some very interesting new MPs in the Commons who never expected to be there.

[Mr. Illini]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, as in the UK it was, I would argue, the center and center-left that refused to get behind Corbyn.

[Corbyn is (no longer) the leader of the Labour Party]

So, who succeeds Corbyn?

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

[DaWN]

Jesus, never thought I'd feel so bad about Labour badly losing. Crushing stuff.

The Lib Dem performance will determine whether this is a very bad or disastrous night for me.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Yep it's going to be a classic #Globaltrend night. London and her enviorns are moving against Boris, the North is in love with him.

Well, no. It's just that Jeremy Corbyn is the single most unpopular politician in the country.

[Storr]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

These are the issues you face with a multiparty FPTP system. In Canada this isn't as much of an issue because of the near irrelevance of the New Democrats outside of BC.

[jaichind]

LAB loss in Newcastle upon Tyne East a lot less than Sunderland Central.  Main difference is BXP ran in Sunderland Central and not Newcastle upon Tyne East.  It is wrong to add the CON and BXP vote in the North and say that BXP cut into the CON vote.  The BXP cut into the LAB vote.

[Dr. MB]

a better word for “global trends” is “English speaking world trends”

Some non-Anglophone countries have shown similar movement. France and Italy, to name some prominent ones.

ok fine expand it to Western Europe

[Silent Hunter]

Labour dropped over 7,000 votes in Blyth Valley; the Tories only went up around 16,000. Overall turnout was down there.

Suggests a lot of people simply didn't vote there. Big turnouts reported elsewhere don't seem to have happened there.

[izixs]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

Some of this seems to assume that the Liberal Dems aren't actually okay with the conservatives winning. The more I see their antics, the more they come off like the US green party except staked out in the center left instead of far left as far as electoral posturing is concerned. To be clear, that means a lot of posturing, being useless, having little interest in actually governing, and more than happy to carry water for the most destructive elements of the right's propaganda.

But sure, because they were the most anti-Brexit of the big 3 they can be totally trusted to do the right thing when it comes crunch time. Right.

*looks at the Lib Dems who didn't do that for this election*

...Right....

[Storr]

Labour holds Sunderland Central and Newcastle upon Tyne East.

[DaWN]

Ruth Davidson on ITV seems convinced its mainly Labour that have collapsed to the SNP and that the Tories and Lib Dems have done okay. Take with a grain of salt but let's see.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

a better word for “global trends” is “English speaking world trends”

Some non-Anglophone countries have shown similar movement. France and Italy, to name some prominent ones.

ok fine expand it to Western Europe

First world trends. You see it in places like Taiwan too, with Tsai's DPP strenth increasingly lying in the cities.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

Some of this seems to assume that the Liberal Dems aren't actually okay with the conservatives winning. The more I see their antics, the more they come off like the US green party except staked out in the center left instead of far left as far as electoral posturing is concerned. To be clear, that means a lot of posturing, being useless, having little interest in actually governing, and more than happy to carry water for the most destructive elements of the right's propaganda.

But sure, because they were the most anti-Brexit of the big 3 they can be totally trusted to do the right thing when it comes crunch time. Right.

*looks at the Lib Dems who didn't do that for this election*

...Right....

Don't blame the Lib Dems for what's happening in Northern England. If anything, they're going to dent the Conservative majority by getting a few seats in the South Labour could have never won.

[Pericles]

Ruth Davidson on ITV seems convinced its mainly Labour that have collapsed to the SNP and that the Tories and Lib Dems have done okay. Take with a grain of salt but let's see.

Makes sense given the pre-election polling, and there may have been a late swing to the SNP too partly based on tactical voting.

[Storr]

Labour holds Sunderland Central and Newcastle upon Tyne East.

Interestingly in Sunderland Central: Conservative + Brexit is greater than Labour (15,372 + 5,047 v. 18,336).

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Jeremy Corbyn has been a TERRIBLE leader of the Labour Party. Anyways, the UK (more specifically England) deserves what's about to happen to them. The economy of the UK is gonna crumble.

Also, I definitely wouldn't try to use this election in the UK as "foreshadowing" or "previewing" what will happen here in America next November. Boris Johnson is a clown but Trump is the whole entire circus. Also, the 2018 midterms already proved that most Americans are fed up with Trump, it's just up to the Democrats to nominate the right candidate in 2020.

Additionally, as a result of these elections, I believe that Scotland will be an independent country by 2025 and Northern Ireland will be reunified with the rest of Ireland by 2030

[jaichind]

Labour holds Sunderland Central and Newcastle upon Tyne East.

Interestingly in Sunderland Central: Conservative + Brexit is greater than Labour (15,372 + 5,047 v. 18,336).

Yeah, but I am sure if BXP does not run more of the BXP vote would flow back to LAB than CON.

[H. Ross Peron]

In addition to the global trends, this was a total failure on the part of anti-Brexit crowd to unite against Boris.

They did it on the Leave side with BXP standing down in Tory districts.

LibDems and Labour failed to get along in the same way.

Democrats in the US have to take note. Moderate Dems, progressives, moderate Republicans must wholly unite against Trump or assure re-election.

That of course is directed at all parties, [SNIPPED]

I think that a lot depends on the specific seats, but generally yes. Lots of Lib Dem - Tory marginals where Labour should’ve stepped aside. But a fair number that the Lib Dems shouldn’t have contested.

Some of this seems to assume that the Liberal Dems aren't actually okay with the conservatives winning. The more I see their antics, the more they come off like the US green party except staked out in the center left instead of far left as far as electoral posturing is concerned. To be clear, that means a lot of posturing, being useless, having little interest in actually governing, and more than happy to carry water for the most destructive elements of the right's propaganda.

But sure, because they were the most anti-Brexit of the big 3 they can be totally trusted to do the right thing when it comes crunch time. Right.

*looks at the Lib Dems who didn't do that for this election*

...Right....

Don't blame the Lib Dems for what's happening in Northern England. If anything, they're going to dent the Conservative majority by getting a few seats in the South Labour could have never won.

They are breaking even in terms of gains lol. There's still marginal seats in the south that could go Labour without vote divide.

[The Free North]

The Labour candidate in Stoke on BBC right now is absolutely seething. Has to be years of frustration for guys like him building up.