Official Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Discussion Thread

[Verily]

Alcon our little precinct is Lower Merion, Ward 8-4, and it is lollypopped shaped, with a circle next to Lancaster Ave, and then a long and narrow strip running down to the county line. The Strip is that 40% or more black area. Half of the circle is in the green zone, and half in the yellow zone which is higher income. Obama should be carrying this precinct by close to 2-1, I would think.

He should.  All the anecdotal reports seem to be bad news for Obama.  Mid double digits doesn't seem all that implausible.

Well, I tried to tell you folks. This is gonna be a landslide.

Close, but not quite a perfect quotation.

[Gustaf]

Alcon our little precinct is Lower Merion, Ward 8-4, and it is lollypopped shaped, with a circle next to Lancaster Ave, and then a long and narrow strip running down to the county line. The Strip is that 40% or more black area. Half of the circle is in the green zone, and half in the yellow zone which is higher income. Obama should be carrying this precinct by close to 2-1, I would think.

He should.  All the anecdotal reports seem to be bad news for Obama.  Mid double digits doesn't seem all that implausible.

Well, I tried to tell you folks. This is gonna be a landslide.

Close, but not quite a perfect quotation.

I didn't want to give it away too easily.

[Franzl]

I just read a report that some people are reporting precincts where Obama isn't on the ballot...

It's my understanding that those are actually just mock ballots given out by the Clinton campaign showing people "how to vote"

[Alcon]

I just read a report that some people are reporting precincts where Obama isn't on the ballot...

It's my understanding that those are actually just mock ballots given out by the Clinton campaign showing people "how to vote"

Which people thought were real ballots?

Haha, I love voters.

[Franzl]

I just read a report that some people are reporting precincts where Obama isn't on the ballot...

It's my understanding that those are actually just mock ballots given out by the Clinton campaign showing people "how to vote"

Which people thought were real ballots?

Haha, I love voters.

that's how I understood it,

[Sam Spade]

Alcon our little precinct is Lower Merion, Ward 8-4, and it is lollypopped shaped, with a circle next to Lancaster Ave, and then a long and narrow strip running down to the county line. The Strip is that 40% or more black area. Half of the circle is in the green zone, and half in the yellow zone which is higher income. Obama should be carrying this precinct by close to 2-1, I would think.

He should.  All the anecdotal reports seem to be bad news for Obama.  Mid double digits doesn't seem all that implausible.

Well, I tried to tell you folks. This is gonna be a landslide.

Close, but not quite a perfect quotation.

I didn't want to give it away too easily.

I found it quite funny.

[Verily]

I did, too, but I'm also overly critical. So it works both ways

[Mr. Morden]

I just read a report that some people are reporting precincts where Obama isn't on the ballot...

It's my understanding that those are actually just mock ballots given out by the Clinton campaign showing people "how to vote"

Which people thought were real ballots?

Haha, I love voters.

Lol.  Still not quite as funny as this story from Super Tuesday:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/orl-bk-vote020508,0,2829516.story

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[Verily]

Those were all over the place on national news on Super Tuesday, although the woman they had on CNN's footage was from Wisconsin (which at least had yet to vote).

The confusion is perhaps more understandable in Florida, where voter information for the faux-primary was unsurprisingly low due to the lack of any campaign, and of course because Floridians can't be relied upon to do anything right related to elections.

[Wiz in Wis]

Those were all over the place on national news on Super Tuesday, although the woman they had on CNN's footage was from Wisconsin (which at least had yet to vote).

The confusion is perhaps more understandable in Florida, where voter information for the faux-primary was unsurprisingly low due to the lack of any campaign, and of course because Floridians can't be relied upon to do anything right related to elections.

I remember that... it made my head hurt

[Mr. Morden]

The confusion is perhaps more understandable in Florida, where voter information for the faux-primary was unsurprisingly low due to the lack of any campaign, and of course because Floridians can't be relied upon to do anything right related to elections.

See, I actually think it's more understandable that voters in a state like WI would have been confused.  Precisely *because* the campaign hadn't really started there yet, people would know less about it.  Whereas in Florida, it would have been just a week ago that there was this heavily covered GOP primary, and presumably lots of local stories about the Democratic "primary" fiasco.

[Alcon]

Shouldn't we be getting "exit polls" right about now?

[Mr. Morden]

Shouldn't we be getting "exit polls" right about now?

Probably within about 10 minutes, we'll get at least *something* (probably useless demo information).

[Verily]

5 PM is usually when the first fake exit polls funnel through the internet. And CNN or FOX might start talking about the useless demographics, as Alcon said. ("The beer-drinkers appear to have turned out in higher numbers than in 2004. Who does this benefit? We'll tell you, after the break.")

[Sam Spade]

Shouldn't we be getting "exit polls" right about now?

Of course - OH NOES!

[Verily]

The confusion is perhaps more understandable in Florida, where voter information for the faux-primary was unsurprisingly low due to the lack of any campaign, and of course because Floridians can't be relied upon to do anything right related to elections.

See, I actually think it's more understandable that voters in a state like WI would have been confused.  Precisely *because* the campaign hadn't really started there yet, people would know less about it.  Whereas in Florida, it would have been just a week ago that there was this heavily covered GOP primary, and presumably lots of local stories about the Democratic "primary" fiasco.

I was kidding a bit.

[Mr. Morden]

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[Verily]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BEER DRINKERS? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Sam Spade]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BEER DRINKERS? Inquiring minds want to know.

Patience now.  I want to know about the voting habits of the binge drinkers.

[Franzl]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BEER DRINKERS? Inquiring minds want to know.

The beer drinkers couldn't find their way to the polling stations. Or the ones that did marked their ballot incorrectly.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Shouldn't we be getting "exit polls" right about now?

Probably within about 10 minutes, we'll get at least *something* (probably useless demo information).

And sure enough - we just got useless exit poll info from CNN.

[Mr. Morden]

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[Lief 🗽]

Um... "overwhelmingly white"? Thanks for a useless and vague adjective, AP.

Does a little more than half mean something good for Obama (like 53%) or what we've been seeing normally (56-58%)?

[ChrisFromNJ]

From CNN - new exit poll info.


1 out 7 new voters in PA - they went 60-38 Obama

Voters who made up mind in last week - they went  58-42 Hillary

[Alcon]

For comparison:

White
Pennsylvania: "Overwhelming" (thanks AP!!!  Score one for the U.S. Census)
Ohio: 76%

Over 65
Pennsylvania: ~30%
Ohio: 14%

Income over $100k
Pennsylvania: ~25%
Ohio: 19%

Postgraduate education
Pennsylvania: ~25%
Ohio: 16%

Race a top factor
Pennsylvania: ~20%
Ohio: 20%

Sex a top factor
Pennsylvania: ~20%
Ohio: 17%

Union member
Pennsylvania: ~30%
Ohio: 34%