Official Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Discussion Thread

[Meeker]

Looks like it will be somewhat close (Which is of course absolutely pathetic for Hillary considering this is the perfect state for her) so this could be an interesting evening.

Actually, considering the money Obama spent, it should be his.

Let the spin begin!

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Clinton started with a 20 point lead and spent plenty of money to be competitive, not to mention the absurd amount of free media she and Obama get. The demographics and her starting position in this state were excellent for her - to be only ahead by 4% is pathetic.

[J. J.]

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

[Person Man]

The polls have been closed for 15 minutes.

[Verily]

Regional breakdown of the exit poll:

Philadelphia: 16%
Philadelphia suburbs: 13%
Northeast: 14%
Pittsburgh and West: 33%
Central and North: 24%

Region is the one thing they'll be rebalancing if they do change the exit poll.

Does Pittsburgh and West seem a bit high in comparison to Philadelphia plus suburbs to you?  Although, I might be underestimating the number of votes from Erie and the Northwest.

It's certainly very different from how the pollsters were weighing things. (They were estimating low 40s for the Southeast and high 20s for the Southwest, so not far off for Pittsburgh but maybe way off for the Philly area.) Again, exit polls tend to be conducted mostly in one area and then adjusted to fit the others, so I wouldn't trust a regional breakdown from one.

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No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

How ironic that a McCain support complain about a "lovefest" for McCain's opponent.

[Lief 🗽]

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

Yeah, the weeks spent on Wright and "bittergate" were clearly signs of immense affection on the part of the media. They are totally in his pocket.

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The polls have been closed for 15 minutes.

Maybe a precinct will report.

[Stranger in a strange land]

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

what!? They replayed that damn phone ad every 15 minutes for a week at no cost to her. Not to mention every objectionable portion of the wright sermons and the bitter comment.

[Person Man]

I wonder why no one is reporting...

[Gustaf]

Personally, I wouldn't say that Obama has had a lovefest with the media. I'd say that the media has given him a so-called "free pass"

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The goofiest part of the regional breakdown to me is that Central/Northern PA is only 52-48 Hillary. Unless Harrisburg and Centre County make up a WAY bigger share of that vote than one would think.

[War on Want]

I wouldn't trust the regional exit poll results, they almost are never right...

[exopolitician]

Obama is winning 69% of support in Philly and 62% in the Philly suburbs...I missed the last few numbers and hes winning new voters 6 to 10 [right?] and Hillary is winning undecideds by the same number.

She talked too fast so im prob wrong on the last numbers...

[True Democrat]

I wonder why no one is reporting...

Pennsylvania exploded with vigor and decisiveness!

No. . .wait. . .I'm still here.

[Eraserhead]

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

lol. Yeah, it has been a total lovefest the last few months.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Obama is winning 69% of support in Philly and 62% in the Philly suburbs...I missed the last few numbers and hes winning new voters 6 to 10 [right?] and Hillary is winning undecideds by the same number.

She talked too fast so im prob wrong on the last numbers...

62% in the suburbs is encouraging district-wise...

[War on Want]

Obama is winning 69% of support in Philly and 62% in the Philly suburbs...I missed the last few numbers and hes winning new voters 6 to 10 [right?] and Hillary is winning undecideds by the same number.

She talked too fast so im prob wrong on the last numbers...

Yeah Clinton is winning undecided 58% or 62%, I think.

[Person Man]

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

Obama's 2-1 spending advantage isn't so overwhelming when you consider the entire so called media shilling for Clinton.

After the lovefest for Obama in the media, I doubt if that can be said with a straight face.

lol. Yeah, it has been a total lovefest the last few months.

...and it has been about 19% less hot than expected....

[Verily]

Obama is winning 69% of support in Philly and 62% in the Philly suburbs...I missed the last few numbers and hes winning new voters 6 to 10 [right?] and Hillary is winning undecideds by the same number.

She talked too fast so im prob wrong on the last numbers...

Just go on CNN.com and ignore the talking heads. (All those are right from what I've seen on their website, however.) I think you mean late deciders, however; 58% is the number for that, pretty typical for this campaign.

[True Democrat]

White men:
C: 53%
O: 46%

In Ohio, they voted for Clinton by 19 (with the adjusted exit polls)

White women:
C: 64%
O: 36%

Close to in Ohio (with adjusted exit polls), which I think is bad for Obama

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Stick with CSpan.

[J. J.]

Looks like it will be somewhat close (Which is of course absolutely pathetic for Hillary considering this is the perfect state for her) so this could be an interesting evening.

Actually, considering the money Obama spent, it should be his.

Let the spin begin!

No, Obama should win big, if based on the money.  That 33% from the west does not look good.

why did mitt romney lose then to mccain who had no money.

Romney withdrew.  I'm far from the point of saying Obama should follow his example, even if he loses.

[Meeker]

Yea, Obama is clearly doing much better amongst white males here than in Ohio.

Richer white men or Bob Casey, Jr.?

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Obama is winning 69% of support in Philly and 62% in the Philly suburbs...I missed the last few numbers and hes winning new voters 6 to 10 [right?] and Hillary is winning undecideds by the same number.

She talked too fast so im prob wrong on the last numbers...

Yeah Clinton is winning undecided 58% or 62%, I think.

Then based on pre-election polls this thing should be called.  A 7-8 pt advantage AND THEN grabbing 60% of the undecideds.  (which where around 12-15 in a lot of polls)  Yet exit polls are not showing a 10 pt by any means. 

This night is confusing me...

[Person Man]

White men:
C: 53%
O: 46%

In Ohio, they voted for Clinton by 19 (with the adjusted exit polls)

White women:
C: 64%
O: 36%

Close to in Ohio (with adjusted exit polls), which I think is bad for Obama

Gee, Clinton could run away with this with the feminazis...