GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread

[GeorgiaModerate]

Ossoff better hope those mail votes are like 80-20 Dem

There are about 28K mail votes (maybe a little bit more, since they would be accepted through today).  If Ossoff gets 60% of them, he'd net about 5600 votes; 65% would net 8400; 70% would net 11200.

[GGover]

Pelosi needs to GO like now she has been used in all of these specials and it seems to be effective.

I honestly can't believe people still fall for anti-Pelosi nonsense. She really needs to go.

[BudgieForce]

The mail ins for DeKalb are coming soon, per DDHQ.

"Soon"

[hueylong]

Not just gonna be one of those people who smugly dissect everything about Ossoff's campaign with their perfect 20/20 hindsight, but one thing he could've done better (from everything that I've seen, which is quite a lot) is really hammer Handel on some of the comments she's made. She's said some disgusting and unpopular stuff, but I don't think Ossoff utilized that enough. Like, it's not unreasonable to expect that calling LGBT relationships/adoption less legitimate should hurt a candidate, considering support for gay marriage and LGBT rights are literally at all time highs. Add in her gaffes like 'livable wage' and man it seems like he didn't capitalize on this aspect enough.

[swf541]

I guess dems will have to wait until the NJ or VA gubernatorial elections for any big wins, sad night for them.

I will say Pelosi should retire, the GOP has used her in so many dark money sponsored ads and is quite effective, it is literally their most effective strategy other than fear mongering like the scalise shooting ad.

We massively closed margins in SC-05 im more excited for 2018 after tonight than before it

Dems screwed up GA-06 pretty easily in retrospect by nationalizing it they should have swept it under the radar

[henster]

Notice how Schumer never comes up in GOP ad or McConnell in D ads they both have low name ID generate less intensity from partisans. Pelosi has been around since 2004 for most Americans.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Handel winning will also allow Republican to take more of a political risk. But remember in GA-06 is a southern suburban district. If Republican are close to loosing suburbs in the south well that explains itself.

[Kamala]

Not just gonna be one of those people who smugly dissect everything about Ossoff's campaign with their perfect 20/20 hindsight, but one thing he could've done better (from everything that I've seen, which is quite a lot) is really hammer Handel on some of the comments she's made. She's said some disgusting and unpopular stuff, but I don't think Ossoff utilized that enough. Like, it's not unreasonable to expect that calling LGBT relationships/adoption less legitimate should hurt a candidate, considering support for gay marriage and LGBT rights are literally at all time highs. Add in her gaffes like 'livable wage' and man it seems like he didn't capitalize on this aspect enough.

Agreed 100%. Handel is not a good politician, plenty of baggage, and little charisma. Ossoff's campaign should've definitely capitalized on that.

[Green Line]

If Democrats think they're going to be taking the House in 2018, this is a district they'll likely need to win.  This is supposed to be their brand new "winning coalition" of educated whites.  Epic fail.

No its not this would be a dems having a 50 seat majority seat

False

LOL ok well your posts in this thread so far have been insubstansive a so not sure why i continue to bother to reply but if i was head of the DCCC this would be on the extra seat list to take the house.  Actually i think dems need to focus on the rust belt and parts of Appalachia for 2018, in particular WV-2,3 and I think its KY-6 (the one in eastern kentucky dems had til 2012).

The seat has an R+8 PVI and the SC seat is actually imo much more alarming for the GOP considering it should not have swing much at all it should be an inelastic rural southern seat unless im missing some unique faceat of this district.

This district was Trump +1 in 2016.  The rust belt is gone. Those seats aren't swinging back.  Educated college whites are the Democrats new great white hope, and they've let them down this time.  The path to 2016 isn't going to be the same for Democrats that it was in 2008.

[BudgieForce]

The margin should get closer.

[swf541]

Pass what legislation...the Dems havent been able to pass anything since 2010

Yeah after they lost control of the House. Don't be a 5 year old.

And they lost the house because of Nancy Pelosi

Pelosi needs to step aside and train a new guy her so called parliamentary genius then

lol, how was it Pelosi fault?

Because shes red meat for the GOP base. Nothing gets the geezers out of the mobile home park and to the voting booth than sticking Pelosi's face on an attack ad

These people would give up SS and Medicare to get Pelosi out of office

lol, they lost their majority because of the ACA and Obama backlash.

Serously, stop trying to revise history.

Pelosi:

Disliked by 100% of Republicans, 75% of independents, and 50% of Democrats

Hey, let's keep her on because she knows like parliamentary stuffs

I like pelosi but this isnt wrong

[Cory]

Is it fair to say that if he looses tonight it's because Ossoff was a pussy who should've gone more negative?

[Kamala]

If Democrats think they're going to be taking the House in 2018, this is a district they'll likely need to win.  This is supposed to be their brand new "winning coalition" of educated whites.  Epic fail.

No its not this would be a dems having a 50 seat majority seat

False

LOL ok well your posts in this thread so far have been insubstansive a so not sure why i continue to bother to reply but if i was head of the DCCC this would be on the extra seat list to take the house.  Actually i think dems need to focus on the rust belt and parts of Appalachia for 2018, in particular WV-2,3 and I think its KY-6 (the one in eastern kentucky dems had til 2012).

The seat has an R+8 PVI and the SC seat is actually imo much more alarming for the GOP considering it should not have swing much at all it should be an inelastic rural southern seat unless im missing some unique faceat of this district.

This district was Trump +1 in 2016.  The rust belt is gone. Those seats aren't swinging back.  Educated college whites are the Democrats new great white hope, and they've let them down this time.  The path to 2016 isn't going to be the same for Democrats that it was in 2008.

Yep, I remember how Indiana became a safe Democratic state after Obama's 2008 victory.

[The_Doctor]

On balance, the trend for the Democratic Party is still positive. Remember, the SC result has about the same weight as the GA 06 result, and would have more impact in the House swing. The base would have been happy with a win, but I don't think this was again, a bad night, for Democrats. Losing GA 06 by 6 and losing SC by 15 would have been bad. Losing GA 06 by 2 and losing SC by 3 is not a bad night at all.

Mixed, yeah, but the trend remains positive for the Democratic Party.

[BudgieForce]

Is it fair to say that if he looses tonight it's because Ossoff was a pussy who should've gone more negative?

He should have lived in the district.

[swf541]

Is it fair to say that if he looses tonight it's because Ossoff was a pussy who should've gone more negative?

Definitely an aspect but dems nationalizing it is a larger one

[Yank2133]

Pass what legislation...the Dems havent been able to pass anything since 2010

Yeah after they lost control of the House. Don't be a 5 year old.

And they lost the house because of Nancy Pelosi

Pelosi needs to step aside and train a new guy her so called parliamentary genius then

lol, how was it Pelosi fault?

Because shes red meat for the GOP base. Nothing gets the geezers out of the mobile home park and to the voting booth than sticking Pelosi's face on an attack ad

These people would give up SS and Medicare to get Pelosi out of office

lol, they lost their majority because of the ACA and Obama backlash.

Serously, stop trying to revise history.

Pelosi:

Disliked by 100% of Republicans, 75% of independents, and 50% of Democrats

Hey, let's keep her on because she knows like parliamentary stuffs

Yeah, because passing legislation and keeping your caucus in order is kind of important when it comes to the job as leader.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Pass what legislation...the Dems havent been able to pass anything since 2010

Yeah after they lost control of the House. Don't be a 5 year old.

And they lost the house because of Nancy Pelosi

Pelosi needs to step aside and train a new guy her so called parliamentary genius then

lol, how was it Pelosi fault?

Because shes red meat for the GOP base. Nothing gets the geezers out of the mobile home park and to the voting booth than sticking Pelosi's face on an attack ad

These people would give up SS and Medicare to get Pelosi out of office

lol, they lost their majority because of the ACA and Obama backlash.

Serously, stop trying to revise history.

Pelosi:

Disliked by 100% of Republicans, 75% of independents, and 50% of Democrats

Hey, let's keep her on because she knows like parliamentary stuffs

Lets force Hoyer and Clyburn to retire while you at. Why is all three leader for the Dem over 75.

[Green Line]

If Democrats think they're going to be taking the House in 2018, this is a district they'll likely need to win.  This is supposed to be their brand new "winning coalition" of educated whites.  Epic fail.

No its not this would be a dems having a 50 seat majority seat

False

LOL ok well your posts in this thread so far have been insubstansive a so not sure why i continue to bother to reply but if i was head of the DCCC this would be on the extra seat list to take the house.  Actually i think dems need to focus on the rust belt and parts of Appalachia for 2018, in particular WV-2,3 and I think its KY-6 (the one in eastern kentucky dems had til 2012).

The seat has an R+8 PVI and the SC seat is actually imo much more alarming for the GOP considering it should not have swing much at all it should be an inelastic rural southern seat unless im missing some unique faceat of this district.

This district was Trump +1 in 2016.  The rust belt is gone. Those seats aren't swinging back.  Educated college whites are the Democrats new great white hope, and they've let them down this time.  The path to 2016 isn't going to be the same for Democrats that it was in 2008.

Yep, I remember how Indiana became a safe Democratic state after Obama's 2008 victory.

Even after 2008, the long term trends were painfully obvious.  Nobody seriously expected battleground Indiana(!) going into 2012.  Not comparable at all...

[100% pro-life no matter what]

On balance, the trend for the Democratic Party is still positive. Remember, the SC result has about the same weight as the GA 06 result, and would have more impact in the House swing. The base would have been happy with a win, but I don't think this was again, a bad night, for Democrats. Losing GA 06 by 6 and losing SC by 15 would have been bad. Losing GA 06 by 2 and losing SC by 3 is not a bad night at all.

Mixed, yeah, but the trend remains positive for the Democratic Party.

Are you supporting the Dems now?

[GGover]

Is it fair to say that if he looses tonight it's because Ossoff was a pussy who should've gone more negative?

Yes.

[Suburbia]

Notice how Schumer never comes up in GOP ad or McConnell in D ads they both have low name ID generate less intensity from partisans. Pelosi has been around since 2004 for most Americans.

McConnell is not as partisan as Trent Lott was.

[TheSaint250]

So much hate for Ossoff after considering him as a POTUS or VP candidate for 2024...after his successful Senate campaign in 2020.

[Thank you for being a friend...]

If Democrats think they're going to be taking the House in 2018, this is a district they'll likely need to win.  This is supposed to be their brand new "winning coalition" of educated whites.  Epic fail, IF they have in fact lost.

I'm not so sure that winning Republican districts is going to help Democrats.  What Ds need are swing seats and a fair redistricting process for 2022.  They might not win back the House until 2022 when a new map is produced.

[Umengus]

Politico fixed tracker and now finds that Handel, not Ossoff, is running a few points ahead in complete precincts

LOL politico ! fake news !