Georgia's Very Own Megathread!

[Adam Griffin]

I noticed that the DGA is doing paid advertising for Carter on Facebook. Where is the discussion, guys? Carter may prove (along with Nunn) to be the superstars of next year's elections.

I'm so happy - Georgia's finally going to get the national spotlight for its emergence as a future swing state and all of those juicy Democratic dollars!

Here's an article that I enjoyed. Don't get me wrong: each time right-wing hack pollster InsiderAdvantage releases a poll, I chuckle (like that one that showed Romney +18 in late September 2012), but this article does really discuss the perfect storm scenario well and compares the developing climate to the one that emerged in 2001-2002 when Dems were destroyed in Georgia.

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[windjammer]

And for Nathan Deal, some news about his scandal?

[Adam Griffin]

And for Nathan Deal, some news about his scandal?

Nothing new in the past two weeks, really - Jason Carter took a swipe at him in his press conference when he said "Georgia at its best always has an honest government that works for everyone and not just good political donors or well-placed friends". It was hilarious to see GAGOP spokeperson, Brian Robinson, make reference to Better Georgia (a progressive, non-partisan group) when it endorsed Carter:

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Jim Galloway from the AJC followed up with this:

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His PAC ("RealPAC"; Galloway misspoke), as you may have heard, was under scrutiny for raising hundreds of thousands of dollars without filing reports with the FEC for more than two years.

[windjammer]

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/jason-carter-georgia-governor-race-10-things-to-know-99544.html

[Adam Griffin]

The entire government of the State of Georgia in one chart.

[Flake]

The entire government of the State of Georgia in one chart.

Jesus Christ lord almighty....

[Adam Griffin]

Deal: 44%
Carter: 36%

Ugh. Eight points down with 15-20% undecided = . On closer inspection, though:

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POLITICO obtained a copy of the survey, which was commissioned by the Georgia Democratic Party and the Democratic Governors Association to help recruit Carter into the 2014 gubernatorial race. It was conducted by the Democratic firm Anzalone Liszt Research, testing 600 likely Georgia voters between Oct. 14 and 20.

The poll found that the governor maintains a solid favorability rating – 49 percent positive, 31 percent negative – but by a 13-point margin, voters say they would rather vote for “someone new” over reelecting him.[/quote]

EDIT: But wait! Another good piece of info from the poll:

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/jason-carter-georgia-governor-race-99781.html
http://images.politico.com/global/2013/11/13/georgia_poll.html

[old timey villain]

Interesting poll. What's weird is that Deal has positive approvals but a majority also want a new governor?

[Adam Griffin]

Interesting poll. What's weird is that Deal has positive approvals but a majority also want a new governor?

I imagine the discrepancy would have to be the ones who are Republican but think Deal is somewhat of a RINO. They're not going to outright admit that they disapprove of him, but would love someone else from the Tea Wing to be Governor.

[old timey villain]

Interesting poll. What's weird is that Deal has positive approvals but a majority also want a new governor?

I imagine the discrepancy would have to be the ones who are Republican but think Deal is somewhat of a RINO. They're not going to outright admit that they disapprove of him, but would love someone else from the Tea Wing to be Governor.

But in the end they'll vote for him as the Republican nominee. Sorry, but I'm not getting my hopes up for this race yet.

[Adam Griffin]

Interesting poll. What's weird is that Deal has positive approvals but a majority also want a new governor?

I imagine the discrepancy would have to be the ones who are Republican but think Deal is somewhat of a RINO. They're not going to outright admit that they disapprove of him, but would love someone else from the Tea Wing to be Governor.

But in the end they'll vote for him as the Republican nominee. Sorry, but I'm not getting my hopes up for this race yet.

I agree completely; the ones who think he is a RINO will still vote for him over any Democrat.

[Bacon King]

Is Carter giving up his state senate seat or is he just not running for reelection? You can't run for two offices at once, right?

[Adam Griffin]

Is Carter giving up his state senate seat or is he just not running for reelection? You can't run for two offices at once, right?

I guess he must be, because yeah, you can't run for two in the same election.

[Miles]

Is Carter giving up his state senate seat or is he just not running for reelection? You can't run for two offices at once, right?

I guess he must be, because yeah, you can't run for two in the same election.

Yeah, for better or worse, the entire GA State Senate is up every two years.

At least Democrats don't have to worry about the seat flipping.

[Adam Griffin]

http://zpolitics.com/don-balfours-selfie/

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[Miles]

The National Journal has a look at what Republicans can do to prevent future Akins; there's obviously lots of emphasis on Broun.

[Adam Griffin]

The National Journal has a look at what Republicans can do to prevent future Akins; there's obviously lots of emphasis on Broun.

A great read.


...And Gingrey is imploding.

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Here

[Bacon King]

pictured: Chip Lake

[Lief 🗽]

Good, good. Broun can consolidate the teabag vote.

[Adam Griffin]

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http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/political-insider/2013/nov/19/rep-steven-smith-fake-ga/

[Nutmeg]

pictured: Chip Lake

One of the best things I have seen in a while.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The National Journal has a look at what Republicans can do to prevent future Akins; there's obviously lots of emphasis on Broun.

I cannot get it to open unfortunately.

[Qymaen]

And for Nathan Deal, some news about his scandal?

What scandal, if I may ask?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nathan Deal is like the combination of the worst from the right and the worst from the insiders together. The real scandal is that it took this long for a scandal to emerge.

The National Journal has a look at what Republicans can do to prevent future Akins; there's obviously lots of emphasis on Broun.

I cannot get it to open unfortunately.

Thanks to some assistance, I have now read the article. It seems like they don't have a clue what they are doing. The lesson of Indiana is not that a tea partier cannot be trusted, but instead that there is a no way of knowing who is going to screw up ahead of time. That was a statewide elected official. It is not like it was Christine O'Donnel or Sharon Angle where you could tell ahead of time something bad was going to happen. There is no safety to he had in establishment picks or incumbents either. Only someone who was not following politics back in 2006 and 2008 when an establishment gaffe (Conservative, but establishement through and through) could singularly be pointed to as the deciding factor in controlling the Senate with Allen, or with scandal plagued incumbents blowing safe seats like Alaska and Montana with Burns and Stevens. That is not to say that Lugar would have been indicted or made a gaffe. However, if he were to win and Romney as well, the possibiliy of IN Class I being open in Romney's potential sixth year in office would certainly be a concern long term that could be avoided with a younger incumbent.

It is like a mindless herd, but those who thing they can stave off disaster by running to Tillis got another thing coming. That is like running to Rick Berg, only worse, to save you from Christine O'Donnell. I also find it odd that they aren't eve sure who the evul Akin candidate is in NC. They select Harris because of Amendment I and his ties to it.

Jumping back into the arms of what destroyed the party before is not going to save it from what is destroying it now. At the end of the day regardless of tea party or establishment, the scucess or failure is determined by candidate quality. 

[tmthforu94]

Your Indiana argument is invalid because 1) I could have easily told you that Mourdock would blow the seat - I argued he would lose it for us throughout the primary campaign, and 2) Lugar would not have served out the full term had he been reelected. Not to take away from your overall argument, though.