Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[The Other Castro]

They've moved the vote on full repeal to 3:30.

[Yank2133]

Meh...I called it months ago. ACA is done. There are no moderate Republicans.

Time for Democrats to move onto single-payer

It appears that if the "skinny repeal" just takes people off the hook, it would basically be a 10% repeal and ruin the insurance markets and GOP would be blamed. It would be a lose-lose-lose "feel good" half-measure....it might not even be a 50 vote option.

Yup.

It is completely short-sighted and a dumb decision. The GOP would basically be trading in a 10% cut in exchange for destruction of individual markets and complete ownership of the outcome.

To make matters worse, the base doesn't care that much about the ACA anymore.

[BudgieForce]

Republicans are not going to collapse the insurance markets. Whatever bill that comes out of conference will increase premiums and kick lots of people off insurance but the insurance industry is going to be just fine.

[Sir Mohamed]

Vote is expected to take place on 3.30pm EST.

[Person Man]

wonder why they pushed it back..I

[heatcharger]

Can we take this time to remind everyone why Dems keep losing on health care:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Save your selective outrage for something else. Bernie also hugged McCain. Is he now a corporate neoliberal shill as well?

[Gass3268]

Can we take this time to remind everyone why Dems keep losing on health care:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Save your selective outrage for something else. Bernie also hugged McCain. Is he now a corporate neoliberal shill as well?

I saw in a Guardian article that Bernie actually did a little dance with McCain.

[BudgieForce]

Lol. Now democrats and republicans have to openly despise each other?

[heatcharger]

Save your selective outrage for something else. Bernie also hugged McCain. Is he now a corporate neoliberal shill as well?

I saw in a Guardian article that Bernie actually did a little dance with McCain.

Yeah I saw that too. McCain is a massive hypocrite and makes terrible votes, but some people on the left want us to start throwing chairs like it's Taiwan or Nevada.

[Yank2133]

God, the left can be so stupid.

[Person Man]

I just want to see this repeal Obamacare fail today.

[Yank2133]

Lol. Now democrats and republicans have to openly despise each other?

Yeah, it is ridiculous.

Obama's best friend in the senate was ****ing Tom Coburn, Ted Kennedy was buddies with Orin Hatch. This isn't something to flip out about.

[heatcharger]

Save your selective outrage for something else. Bernie also hugged McCain. Is he now a corporate neoliberal shill as well?

Jesus Christ dude, you're like a reverse Jfern at this point.

Fallacies like the one Mondale just espoused should be called out IMO.

[Xing]

If only McGinty or Feingold had won.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people who voted for Toomey/Johnson/Rubio/Trump knew exactly what they were voting for.

There were a significant amount of Clinton/Toomey voters (that were only partially canceled out by Trump/McGinty voters), Clinton/Johnson voters, and Clinton/Rubio voters. Same holds in NC, AZ, GA. The only major senate races with mass straight ticket were NV, CO and IL. The deciding votes to keep the R senate majority came largely from people wanting to check Hillary (the presumed winner), and not from Trump loyalists.

The fact is, if they voted for a Republican Congress, they knew they were voting for people who wanted to do away with the ACA, which they tried to do constantly after it was passed.

Anyway, my current guess is that the "skinny repeal" passes 51-50.

[The Mikado]

If only McGinty or Feingold had won.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people who voted for Toomey/Johnson/Rubio/Trump knew exactly what they were voting for.

There were a significant amount of Clinton/Toomey voters (that were only partially canceled out by Trump/McGinty voters), Clinton/Johnson voters, and Clinton/Rubio voters. Same holds in NC, AZ, GA. The only major senate races with mass straight ticket were NV, CO and IL. The deciding votes to keep the R senate majority came largely from people wanting to check Hillary (the presumed winner), and not from Trump loyalists.

The fact is, if they voted for a Republican Congress, they knew they were voting for people who wanted to do away with the ACA, which they tried to do constantly after it was passed.

Anyway, my current guess is that the "skinny repeal" passes 51-50.

Possible. If it happens, the conference committee will be...something. Skinny Repeal doesn't cut Medicaid. House side won't like that.

[Person Man]

If only McGinty or Feingold had won.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people who voted for Toomey/Johnson/Rubio/Trump knew exactly what they were voting for.

There were a significant amount of Clinton/Toomey voters (that were only partially canceled out by Trump/McGinty voters), Clinton/Johnson voters, and Clinton/Rubio voters. Same holds in NC, AZ, GA. The only major senate races with mass straight ticket were NV, CO and IL. The deciding votes to keep the R senate majority came largely from people wanting to check Hillary (the presumed winner), and not from Trump loyalists.

The fact is, if they voted for a Republican Congress, they knew they were voting for people who wanted to do away with the ACA, which they tried to do constantly after it was passed.

Anyway, my current guess is that the "skinny repeal" passes 51-50.

Possible. If it happens, the conference committee will be...something. Skinny Repeal doesn't cut Medicaid. House side won't like that.

And basically say "this or nothing". Do we even know if the Skinny Repeal will even be reconcilable?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Mark Meadows is saying a skinny repeal will not pass the house

[Ebsy]

Mark Meadows is saying a skinny repeal will not pass the house

Mark Meadows says a lot of things.

[The Mikado]

Sahil Kapur‏ Verified account @sahilkapur

.@RepMarkMeadows just said there’s “zero” chance the House would pass a skinny repeal of ACA. Then he made a hand-signal that read zero.


So...either the GOP conference committee makes something that looks like skinny repeal that the House doesn't like or they make it look like the BCRA that the Senate just voted down 43-57 yesterday.  Fun times!

[heatcharger]

Rand Paul continues to be a disingenuous moron.

[alomas]

Is the final decisive vote on Trumpcare today? Sorry but I am not following this closely.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Rand Paul continues to be a disingenuous moron.

In other breaking news water is wet

[The Other Castro]

They are now doing roll call ahead of the full repeal vote. Expected to fail with at least three GOP defections.

[Gass3268]

You must be logged in to read this quote.

I imagine Democrats want this vote on the record.

[Wells]

Jeff Merkley just introduced more than a hundred amendments.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/890295327210840065

You must be logged in to read this quote.