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« Reply #2050 on: July 05, 2013, 11:23:21 AM »

Hmm... it might be a good idea to pass a law limiting one bill to a post in the Introduction thread.  I'm sure you all know what I mean...

Why? It would only take up more space.
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« Reply #2051 on: July 05, 2013, 11:25:05 AM »

Hmm... it might be a good idea to pass a law limiting one bill to a post in the Introduction thread.  I'm sure you all know what I mean...

Why? It would only take up more space.

It isn't fair to other senators' bills.
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« Reply #2052 on: July 05, 2013, 11:51:45 AM »

We already have an "anti-clogging" rule, although I do see your point.

Still, TNF's broad legislative agenda won't interfere with bringing education reform to the floor quickly. We'll tackle Kal's judicial tenure amendment first, and then Scott's bill will take the executive slot.

Also, remember that swearing in doesn't take place until noon EST, 20 minutes from now.

Noon EST was 51 minutes ago(?) right?
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« Reply #2053 on: July 05, 2013, 11:54:08 AM »

As has been rubbed in my face many times by Yankee, Atlas time is weird and doesn't always run in conjunction with actual time, for stupid reasons. Tongue
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« Reply #2054 on: July 05, 2013, 11:57:51 AM »

As has been rubbed in my face many times by Yankee, Atlas time is weird and doesn't always run in conjunction with actual time, for stupid reasons. Tongue

I was unaware. Well I hope that doesn't invalidate my swearing in. Tongue
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« Reply #2055 on: July 05, 2013, 12:01:48 PM »

Wouldn't hurt to swear in again, just to be on the safe side, incase a certain crazed southern man makes it an issue. Tongue
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« Reply #2056 on: July 05, 2013, 12:33:37 PM »

You people are running on a fake time imposed on you by Woodrow Wilson, known as Daylight Savings Time. This is not mentioned in the constitution of Atlasia and the terms are stated as starting at Noon Eastern Standard Time.

You push your clocks forward in the spring and back in the fall. Therefore throughout the summer you are running an hour ahead of "Standard time". For those on the east coast, EST becomes EDT. We run on EST all year long in the Senate.

Why? You ask? The reason is simple. Unlike elections, which are one off things. The Senatei s constantly running. If we changed our times, it would mess up the bill times, vote lengths and such for every bill that was on the floor when the transition occurred.
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« Reply #2057 on: July 05, 2013, 12:37:19 PM »

So yes, swear in again, lest someone get pissed about that 5-5 tie subsequently broken in your favor by DemPGH next month, and then that someone sues claiming you as one of the Ayes was never a Senator. It would probably be tossed out, but if we were to be forced to redo a bunch of bills in the off chance the Justices go rogue (very strong change with that Judicial Tenure Amendment), that would destroy the Senate functionality.
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« Reply #2058 on: July 16, 2013, 03:01:21 PM »

With my resignation, could somebody take over sponsorships of the Judicial Tenure Amendment and Wikimaster General Act?
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« Reply #2059 on: July 17, 2013, 06:13:41 AM »

Quick somebody take the Judicial Tenure Amendment it could be on the floor any minute. I would even though I oppose it, but I am at the limit as it is so it don't work.
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« Reply #2060 on: July 17, 2013, 06:44:20 PM »

If nobody took it, I'll take it.
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« Reply #2061 on: July 17, 2013, 08:40:13 PM »

I'll take the Wikimaster one, I suppose.
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« Reply #2062 on: July 24, 2013, 08:32:36 PM »

Does anybody know if Atlasia has established an official retirement plan for seniors, or is that already covered by the Social Security Act, the basics of which I assume resemble the real life version's?
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Comprehensive_Social_Security_Reform_Act

unless I missed it, section 8 of this bill has not been fulfilled.  That this program is being run without any account of its total cost and revenues is worth keeping in mind as the basic income bill is being considered.
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« Reply #2063 on: July 29, 2013, 08:17:39 AM »

Senators of Atlasia,

28 Atlasian citizens have signed the petition for "More Fiscal Responsibility and Sustainable Economic Development".

Regards,

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« Reply #2064 on: July 29, 2013, 09:37:45 AM »

Senators of Atlasia,

28 Atlasian citizens have signed the petition for "More Fiscal Responsibility and Sustainable Economic Development".

Regards,

ZuWo

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« Reply #2065 on: September 08, 2013, 09:30:12 AM »

The Senate should strongly consider an impeachment and expulsion hearing against "Senator" Xahar for:

1) Willfully violating his oath of office
2) Abuse of power
3) Dereliction of duty
4) Hostility toward the democratic processes of Atlasia
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« Reply #2066 on: September 08, 2013, 07:02:16 PM »

The Senate's expulsion power is tied to a strict activity standard that must first be violated.
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« Reply #2067 on: September 08, 2013, 10:12:49 PM »

The Senate should strongly consider an impeachment and expulsion hearing against "Senator" Xahar for:

1) Willfully violating his oath of office
2) Abuse of power
3) Dereliction of duty
4) Hostility toward the democratic processes of Atlasia

Xahar is a Senator in good standing elected by the people of the Republic of Atlasia and should be allowed to act as one.
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« Reply #2068 on: September 08, 2013, 10:20:48 PM »

The Senate should strongly consider an impeachment and expulsion hearing against "Senator" Xahar for:

1) Willfully violating his oath of office
2) Abuse of power
3) Dereliction of duty
4) Hostility toward the democratic processes of Atlasia

There's no need for scare quotes. No matter how distraught it might make you, I have been duly elected by the electorate of Atlasia to the Senate.
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« Reply #2069 on: September 19, 2013, 11:49:11 PM »

And we essentially have the return of the Ludlow Amendment. Thanks, TNF!
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« Reply #2070 on: September 20, 2013, 07:16:29 AM »

And we essentially have the return of the Ludlow Amendment. Thanks, TNF!

You're welcome. If war is right, it should be declared by the people, not the Senate, because Senators don't get in uniform and risk their lives for their country.
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« Reply #2071 on: October 06, 2013, 10:04:41 PM »

The Senate is presently studying a change in the judiciary system.

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Citizens could be selected to be on the People's Court. Will there be an opt out option for citizens who don't want to be selected ? I am not interested in making rulings like a judge.
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« Reply #2072 on: October 07, 2013, 11:37:10 AM »

The Senate is presently studying a change in the judiciary system.

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Citizens could be selected to be on the People's Court. Will there be an opt out option for citizens who don't want to be selected ? I am not interested in making rulings like a judge.

You are free to post this question in the debate thread and such would probably better ensure that you have an answer. My assumption would be that it would operate like a jury and thus opt outs would not be possible save for special circumstances, but Tyrion would be better to answer exactly regarding the present text. As for whether or not the Senate is willing to expand the range of opt outs, is something we would have to see about.
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« Reply #2073 on: October 07, 2013, 04:21:07 PM »

The Senate is presently studying a change in the judiciary system.

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Citizens could be selected to be on the People's Court. Will there be an opt out option for citizens who don't want to be selected ? I am not interested in making rulings like a judge.

This is a good question. My answer in the main thread:
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« Reply #2074 on: November 06, 2013, 04:21:11 PM »

This may be the most ridiculous and unconstitutional thing TNF has introduced to-date. Another record broken - what can we expect next??
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