Politics and Elections in the Netherlands: coalition agreement presented

[DavidB.]

Results per polling station (for all municipalities) on a map: https://maps.nrc.nl/tk2017dev/tk2017sb.php

Thank G-d that they managed to compose this despite municipalities being annoying with publishing the results by polling station this time. This is a goldmine. You can lock me up with this for three days and I won't care.

Post funny results here, y'all.

[freek]

Results per polling station (for all municipalities) on a map: https://maps.nrc.nl/tk2017dev/tk2017sb.php

Thank G-d that they managed to compose this despite municipalities being annoying with publishing the results by polling station this time. This is a goldmine. You can lock me up with this for three days and I won't care.

Post funny results here, y'all.

Polling station 'Dorpshuis', Zeddam, Montferland municipality. PvdA largest party, with 23% of the vote. Probably a tabulation error, in the other polling station in this village PvdA scored 3%, and in 2012 PvdA scored 24% in this polling station.

[DavidB.]

Good catch. Lewis told me about this polling station on AAD but I hadn't looked it up yet. The ones where the PvdA truly won are in Amsterdam-Zuidoost, Zaandam and Menameradiel.

Buurthuis Sam Sam in the Schilderswijk, The Hague has DENK at 60.25%. Don't think any other polling station can top that.

[freek]

Good catch. Lewis told me about this polling station on AAD but I hadn't looked it up yet. The ones where the PvdA truly won are in Amsterdam-Zuidoost, Zaandam and Menameradiel.

Buurthuis Sam Sam in the Schilderswijk, The Hague has DENK at 60.25%. Don't think any other polling station can top that.

Probably not.

The polling stations won by Artikel 1 are actually  quite interesting. I have been thinking about it, and I can't imagine there have been many other examples in the past of parties that failed to win a seat, but won individual polling stations. At first I thought maybe somewhere in Groningen in 1986, when CPN dropped out of parliament. But then PvdA won 60% in Beerta and Finsterwolde, so I think that is ruled out. Only possibility I can think of is maybe a polling station in Bunschoten in 1959 (or earlier), when GPV just missed out on a seat.

[DavidB.]

Huh, good point.

The polling station in Urk where the SGP received the most votes is perhaps unsurprising: Johannes Calvijnschool, 65.3%.

The PVV got a whopping 59.5% at Tenniscentrum Rico in St. Willebrord, municipality of Rucphen.

GL got 42.3% and D66 27.5% at Eetcafé De Oerknal (the Big Bang) in Amsterdam at the Science Park Campus of the UvA.

[Diouf]

Was on exchange in Maastricht a few years ago. The place where I lived is right between a typical student place with D66, GL and VVD top and a typical Limburg middle/working class place with many similar, smallish 1/2-level houses with PVV, VVD, CDA top.

[DavidB.]

I live in one of these PVV/Denk areas: beautiful tribute to multiculturalism.

[freek]

Good catch. Lewis told me about this polling station on AAD but I hadn't looked it up yet. The ones where the PvdA truly won are in Amsterdam-Zuidoost, Zaandam and Menameradiel.

And one in Winsum.

[Zinneke]

Was on exchange in Maastricht a few years ago. The place where I lived is right between a typical student place with D66, GL and VVD top and a typical Limburg middle/working class place with many similar, smallish 1/2-level houses with PVV, VVD, CDA top.

Its insane how divided Maastricht is between the touristy city centre and the suburbs in terms of how it looks and feels. A lot of the locals I know say that the real divide is not the river but the railway station and you are in a different city once you cross it. I imagine looking at that place its a political divide too.

Also, it has the "new wijcken" from the boom in population after WW2, which have cheaper housing and thus poorer demographics, but you find that with a lot of Dutch cities.

[Hifly]

Is there a polling district map for 2012, to compare?

[freek]

Is there a polling district map for 2012, to compare?

There is this one, but the pop up windows that show the results in detail are broken

https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/10/03/wat-stemden-uw-buren-a1483984

[Tintrlvr]

I spent a while searching for bizarre polling districts where D66/PVV or PVV/D66 (or, for that matter, GL/PVV or PVV/GL) were first and second and couldn't find any. Anyone have better luck than me?

There were some polling districts in southern Rotterdam (and maybe elsewhere) where Denk/PVV or PVV/Denk were first and second, but that's not really surprising.

[DavidB.]

Hmm, this wasn't difficult for me... but I'm a native who knows where to look after all.

PVV/D66: BS De Vier Leeuwen, Rotterdam (Rubroek neighborhood)
PVV/GL: Huis van het Wijk de Steiger, Rotterdam (Katendrecht)
These polling stations can be found close to inner cities where the PVV are strong (WWC presence) but gentrification is taking place.
GL/PVV: Wijkcentrum 't Lindenkwadrant, The Hague (Valkenboskwartier)
D66/PVV: Buurthuis Het Voorhof, Delft; Delft has many students but quite some PVV voters too.

Basisschool De Odyssee in Amsterdam West is a Denk/VVD polling station, which I found to be an interesting combination too (I'd expect Leidsche Rijn in Utrecht to have some of these too -- edit: yup, one.).

[Nanwe]

Was on exchange in Maastricht a few years ago. The place where I lived is right between a typical student place with D66, GL and VVD top and a typical Limburg middle/working class place with many similar, smallish 1/2-level houses with PVV, VVD, CDA top.

Its insane how divided Maastricht is between the touristy city centre and the suburbs in terms of how it looks and feels. A lot of the locals I know say that the real divide is not the river but the railway station and you are in a different city once you cross it. I imagine looking at that place its a political divide too.

Also, it has the "new wijcken" from the boom in population after WW2, which have cheaper housing and thus poorer demographics, but you find that with a lot of Dutch cities.

Having lived and studied in Maastricht this is pretty accurate. The city centre up to the railway lines and also parts of the suburbs close to the Randwijck campus all have a university town feel, with plenty of cafés and stuff like that. But indeed, after crossing the highway, it's like an entirely different town, at least on the eastern side of the river. On the western side, you get the same after leaving the Centrum area beyond the Koningin Emmaplein area, in which there are plenty of students but there is still a working class feel to it.

[DavidB.]

The PVV today announced that they will stand in five additional municipalities in the local elections, which will take place in March 2018. Since 2010 the PVV have been part of the municipal councils in Almere (where they are the largest party) and The Hague (where they are the second party), but next year they will also give it a shot in Enschede, Almelo, Twenterand, Urk and Rotterdam. Enschede and Almelo are historically industrial cities in Eastern Overijssel; while Almelo is truly in decline, Enschede seems to have found a way to "reinvent" itself and is the home of Twente University. The PVV did well in both municipalities in the general election: 18% in Almelo, 15.6% in Enschede. Twenterand is a rural municipality (Freek could probably tell us more about it); they got 15.6% there. I don't really know why they picked this place; perhaps they think they have some talented people there. Urk is the heart of the Bible Belt. They will get 2-3 seats at most there.

The biggest deal is competing in Rotterdam, where Leefbaar Rotterdam have been an important political force since 2002. The PVV standing there will inevitably hurt Leefbaar, perhaps to the point where they won't be the largest party in the next election, but I'm not convinced most Leefbaar voters will go PVV: Leefbaar have an excellent record. This is bound to be a disappointment for the PVV and in my opinion a really petty, childish choice solely aimed at taking Leefbaar down (either that or they are truly delusional enough to believe they will win by a landslide). For this reason I will certainly not vote for the PVV next year in my own city; it's probably going to be VVD.

[Tender Branson]

Get yourself someone who looks at you the way the polling assistants looks at Klaver casting his vote in den Haag.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[freek]

The PVV today announced that they will stand in five additional municipalities in the local elections, which will take place in March 2018. Since 2010 the PVV have been part of the municipal councils in Almere (where they are the largest party) and The Hague (where they are the second party), but next year they will also give it a shot in Enschede, Almelo, Twenterand, Urk and Rotterdam. Enschede and Almelo are historically industrial cities in Eastern Overijssel; while Almelo is truly in decline, Enschede seems to have found a way to "reinvent" itself and is the home of Twente University. The PVV did well in both municipalities in the general election: 18% in Almelo, 15.6% in Enschede. Twenterand is a rural municipality (Freek could probably tell us more about it); they got 15.6% there. I don't really know why they picked this place; perhaps they think they have some talented people there. Urk is the heart of the Bible Belt. They will get 2-3 seats at most there.

PVV choosing Twenterand is quite interesting. It is unlike the other rural municipalities in Twente. Villages as Vriezenveen, Vroomshoop or Westerhaar were founded for peat extraction (similar to Drenthe) and later people worked in the textile industry and in construction. It is still relatively poor, with higher than average unemployment, but it is not as bad as in Eastern Groningen. Politically it is on the edge of the Bible Belt (CU+SGP 14% together), and also PVV scores higher than in other municipalities in Twente (but still around the national average).

[DavidB.]

Interesting, Freek! Truly didn't know about these differences between Twenterand and places like Dinkelland or Tubbergen.

FvD's youth organization JFVD, founded four days ago, now has more than 2500 members, almost as many as VVD youth organization JOVD, who have about 2700 members. Baudet was in a hurry because he needed more than 1000 members before the end of March to receive subsidies for JFVD in 2017, but he easily managed to surpass this target. He also founded a "scientific institute" -- which all Dutch political parties have since they get subsidies for it -- named the Renaissance Institute.

[jeron]

The PVV today announced that they will stand in five additional municipalities in the local elections, which will take place in March 2018. Since 2010 the PVV have been part of the municipal councils in Almere (where they are the largest party) and The Hague (where they are the second party), but next year they will also give it a shot in Enschede, Almelo, Twenterand, Urk and Rotterdam. Enschede and Almelo are historically industrial cities in Eastern Overijssel; while Almelo is truly in decline, Enschede seems to have found a way to "reinvent" itself and is the home of Twente University. The PVV did well in both municipalities in the general election: 18% in Almelo, 15.6% in Enschede. Twenterand is a rural municipality (Freek could probably tell us more about it); they got 15.6% there. I don't really know why they picked this place; perhaps they think they have some talented people there. Urk is the heart of the Bible Belt. They will get 2-3 seats at most there.

PVV choosing Twenterand is quite interesting. It is unlike the other rural municipalities in Twente. Villages as Vriezenveen, Vroomshoop or Westerhaar were founded for peat extraction (similar to Drenthe) and later people worked in the textile industry and in construction. It is still relatively poor, with higher than average unemployment, but it is not as bad as in Eastern Groningen. Politically it is on the edge of the Bible Belt (CU+SGP 14% together), and also PVV scores higher than in other municipalities in Twente (but still around the national average).

Only Vriezenveen is truly on the edge of the Bible Belt. places like Vroomshoop and Westerhaar are the poorest parts of the municipality and PVV scored the highest there (one polling station in Vroomshoop had 34% OVV) These villages are probably as bad as bad as Eastern Groningen economically.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[Famous Mortimer]

Wrote a paper about the future of the PvdA for a grad school application.

Basically just used this thread as a major source.

Now I need real sources though. Wondering if anyone (probably David cus everyone else hates me) can help. Dutch language newspapers are fine.

Need articles which state the following:

PVV is left economically

PVV won the White working class in 2017.

SP came in second among the White working class in 2017.

Jan Marijnissen is immigration skeptic.

A majority of Muslims voted for DENK.

Hindustanis significantly supported the PVV.

[Hifly]

Hindustanis significantly supported the PVV.

Americans should be aware that "Hindustani" is not the contemporary term used to describe the persons from that part of the world.

[Zinneke]

Wrote a paper about the future of the PvdA for a grad school application.

Basically just used this thread as a major source.

Now I need real sources though. Wondering if anyone (probably David cus everyone else hates me) can help. Dutch language newspapers are fine.

Need articles which state the following:

PVV is left economically

PVV won the White working class in 2017.

SP came in second among the White working class in 2017.

Jan Marijnissen is immigration skeptic.

A majority of Muslims voted for DENK.

Hindustanis significantly supported the PVV.

This should be good.

[Famous Mortimer]

Hindustanis significantly supported the PVV.

Americans should be aware that "Hindustani" is not the contemporary term used to describe the persons from that part of the world.

It is a contemporary term to describe people of Indo-Surinamese descent.