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« Reply #400 on: August 13, 2008, 03:16:13 PM »

This isn't a good sign for McCain, in 2004 this is when Bush moved ahead of Kerry.

I thought it wasn't until after the conventions. If I remember right, Kerry didn't get a bounce from the convention while Bush did. It only got worse after the Swift Boat Frauds.
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« Reply #401 on: August 13, 2008, 03:19:51 PM »

This isn't a good sign for McCain, in 2004 this is when Bush moved ahead of Kerry.

I thought it wasn't until after the conventions. If I remember right, Kerry didn't get a bounce from the convention while Bush did. It only got worse after the Swift Boat Frauds.

We were a good three weeks after the Dem convention at this point in 2004.  And also mostly through the second week of the Swift Boat thingy.
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« Reply #402 on: August 13, 2008, 03:59:21 PM »

This isn't a good sign for McCain, in 2004 this is when Bush moved ahead of Kerry.

Bush moved ahead after the Republican Convention for good, but they still seesawed back and forth until election day. Kerry lead pretty consistently until the RNC. I think Bush lead 55-41 immediately after the RNC concluded.

Also, good to see some numbers from Nevada and VA coming from Rasmussen.
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« Reply #403 on: August 13, 2008, 04:00:10 PM »

This isn't a good sign for McCain, in 2004 this is when Bush moved ahead of Kerry.

Bush moved ahead after the Republican Convention for good, but they still seesawed back and forth until election day. Kerry lead pretty consistently until the RNC. I think Bush lead 55-41 immediately after the RNC concluded.

Also, good to see some numbers from Nevada and VA coming from Rasmussen.

Not in Rasmussen's tracking poll. Bush took the lead on August 12 and never looked back.
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« Reply #404 on: August 14, 2008, 09:14:21 AM »

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Thursday - August 14, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 43% / 47%, including leaners (-1, -1)
McCain: 42% / 46%, including leaners (nc, nc)

Obama leads among voters who make less than $40,000 a year or more than $100,000 annually. McCain leads above those in between. Among Investors, McCain leads 50% to 45% while Obama leads among non-Investors 53% to 40%

Favorability

Obama: 54% favorable, 44% unfavorable (-2, nc)
McCain: 55% favorable, 43% unfavorable (nc, nc)

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« Reply #405 on: August 15, 2008, 08:39:10 AM »

Friday, August 14, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, nc)
McCain: 41% / 45%, including leaners (-1, -1)


Favorability

Obama: 55% favorable, 44% unfavorable (+1, nc)
McCain: 54% favorable, 44% unfavorable (-1, +1)
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« Reply #406 on: August 15, 2008, 11:45:48 AM »

I think it will be fine in the end. Obama will probably slaughter McCain in the debates, and then a lot of the leaners and undecideds may go his way. A lot of people still don't know much about Obama at all, whereas McCain is more well known.

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Obama will slaughter McCain in the debates? With what? A barrage of uhs and ums? And people don't know him? Maybe that was valid a couple months ago, but a year long circle jerk in the media gave the public all they needed to know and more. The problem is that they know too much about him now.

Obama is much better in debates in McCain. I don't care about uhs and ums, as I say them too as do you and most other people. McCain is good at town hall but only 1 debate is close to that style and not so much. And yes, people don't know him. People who read this board and watch cable news know lots and lots about him, but that is only a small portion of public.
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« Reply #407 on: August 16, 2008, 10:25:47 AM »

In the form of Hawk...

Saturday - August 16, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 43% / 46%, including leaners (-1, -1)
McCain: 41% / 45%, including leaners (nc, -1)

Favorability

Obama: 55% favorable, 43% unfavorable (nc, -1)
McCain: 54% favorable, 43% unfavorable (nc, -1)
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« Reply #408 on: August 17, 2008, 07:06:11 AM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)

Favorability

Obama: 54% favorable, 44% unfavorable (-1, +1)
McCain: 53% favorable, 44% unfavorable (-1, +1)
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« Reply #409 on: August 17, 2008, 09:54:57 AM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday
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« Reply #410 on: August 17, 2008, 02:11:05 PM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday

Somebody is nervous...
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« Reply #411 on: August 17, 2008, 05:55:19 PM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday

Somebody is nervous...

The race possibly got tighter; ask me Wednesday or Thursday.
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« Reply #412 on: August 17, 2008, 07:12:53 PM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday

Somebody is nervous...

The race possibly got tighter; ask me Wednesday or Thursday.
because we can't figure it out for ourselves.  we need J.J. to interpret the polls properly for us.

seems like it's tightened to me, already.
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« Reply #413 on: August 17, 2008, 11:23:23 PM »

Once again, I'd like someone to explain why this illustrious "weekend bounce" hasn't appeared recently.
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« Reply #414 on: August 18, 2008, 12:28:42 AM »

I just e-mailed Rasmussen if they ever plan to conduct an Indiana poll before the election. There's been no serious poll from Indiana since about 3 months now. This is one state that should be polled once in a while ...

Finally, Rasmussen replied:

"Thank you for taking the time to write.  There will be a new poll on Indiana soon."

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« Reply #415 on: August 18, 2008, 12:31:01 AM »

Nice.
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« Reply #416 on: August 18, 2008, 01:17:48 PM »

Is this page where you are getting the figures?  If so:

Monday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (nc, nc)
McCain: 43% / 46%, including leaners (+1, +1)
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« Reply #417 on: August 18, 2008, 01:22:55 PM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday

Somebody is nervous...

The race possibly got tighter; ask me Wednesday or Thursday.
because we can't figure it out for ourselves.  we need J.J. to interpret the polls properly for us.

seems like it's tightened to me, already.

No, I'm saying, I don't know.  I'm not calling it tightening yet. 

Once again, I'd like someone to explain why this illustrious "weekend bounce" hasn't appeared recently.

The weekend bounce appears in Gallup and not Rasmussen, which is why I've referred to it being something related how Gallup draws its sample.  For some reason Gallup seems to oversample/undersample Obama/McCain on weekends, respectively, or  oversample/undersample McCain/Obama mid week, respectively.  Take your pick.
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« Reply #418 on: August 18, 2008, 01:53:01 PM »

Someone create a longterm graph, for both pollsters. I guess it exists to a statistically significant degree - though not as strongly as certain people on this thread make it out, obviously - but I'd prefer to know for sure.
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« Reply #419 on: August 18, 2008, 02:07:21 PM »

Sunday - August 17, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 44% / 47%, including leaners (+1, +1)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (+1, nc)


which is better than yesterday

Somebody is nervous...

The race possibly got tighter; ask me Wednesday or Thursday.
because we can't figure it out for ourselves.  we need J.J. to interpret the polls properly for us.

seems like it's tightened to me, already.

No, I'm saying, I don't know.  I'm not calling it tightening yet. 
well, rasmussen has had th race within 3 points every single 3 day average for over 3 weeks now.  before that it had shot up to 6 points a few times.  I think the race is now officially tight, if it ever wasn't.

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« Reply #420 on: August 18, 2008, 02:51:03 PM »

It's amazing how similar the numbers from today are compared with the week before the 2004 DEM convention. Rasmussen showed Kerry ahead by 0.8% in the week before the DNC and RCP had Kerry ahead by 1-3%. Today, it's Obama by 1 and by 3-4% at RCP. The week ending with August 19, 2004 was also the last time that Rasmussen showed Kerry leading.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2004/week_by_week_numbers

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_vs_kerry_historical.html
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« Reply #421 on: August 19, 2008, 11:52:39 AM »

Tuesday, August 19, 2008:

General: Head-to-Head

Obama: 45% / 47%, including leaners (+1, nc)
McCain: 42% / 45%, including leaners (-1, -1)

Favorability

McCain: 55% favorable, 43% unfavorable (nc, nc)
Obama: 54% favorable, 45% unfavorable (-1, +2)

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« Reply #422 on: August 19, 2008, 11:56:25 AM »

I would argue a tightening from June (maybe into early July), but being very stable since then.

Elcorazon, I said the race wasn't "tightening," but I did not say the race wasn't tight. I'd say zero to three on Rasumssen, but I think it's been there for at least a month.

Not a runaway, but a close race.
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« Reply #423 on: August 19, 2008, 11:58:50 AM »

I would argue a tightening from June (maybe into early July), but being very stable since then.

Elcorazon, I said the race wasn't "tightening," but I did not say the race wasn't tight. I'd say zero to three on Rasumssen, but I think it's been there for at least a month.

Not a runaway, but a close race.
the only way it could be much closer is if it were dead even, swinging from -2 to +2 from day to day with no discernable leader.  Obama's lead has been wafer thin for weeks now, at least based on these tracking polls.
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« Reply #424 on: August 19, 2008, 02:43:13 PM »

I would argue a tightening from June (maybe into early July), but being very stable since then.

Elcorazon, I said the race wasn't "tightening," but I did not say the race wasn't tight. I'd say zero to three on Rasumssen, but I think it's been there for at least a month.

Not a runaway, but a close race.
the only way it could be much closer is if it were dead even, swinging from -2 to +2 from day to day with no discernable leader.  Obama's lead has been wafer thin for weeks now, at least based on these tracking polls.

I still give the edge to Obama, but this month, that margin is razor thin.  Now, it got tighter from June and I expect a convention bounce for both candidates.  9/15 plus is when I'll start looking.
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