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« Reply #1225 on: September 12, 2015, 06:14:32 AM »

He certainly was a bit louder than he needed to be. Were the mikes not working properly?

Jamie Reed has resigned as Shadow Health Minister; didn't even wait until the speech finished.

He has lost the endorsement of the Jedi:

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/have-caused-a-stir-in-parliament-young-jedi-1.425528
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« Reply #1226 on: September 12, 2015, 06:15:21 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2015, 06:19:09 AM by Clyde1998 »

Natalie Bennett (‏@natalieben)Sad "Congratulations @jeremycorbyn - the shift in British politics against austerity, against privatisation, against Trident, is gaining strength"

Nicola Sturgeon: "We congratulate Jeremy Corbyn on his victory and hope that we can work constructively with him in a progressive alliance against Tory austerity. We also call on him to give an early commitment that Labour MPs will join the SNP in voting against the £100 billion renewal of Trident. However, the reality today is that at a time when the country needs strong opposition to the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn leads a deeply, and very bitterly, divided party. Indeed, if Labour cannot quickly demonstrate that they have a credible chance of winning the next UK general election, many more people in Scotland are likely to conclude that independence is the only alternative to continued Tory government. In the meantime, it is clearer than ever that the only credible and united opposition to the Tories, north and south of the border, is the SNP"

Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage)Sad "A Labour Leader who doesn't believe in any immigration controls. Clear that those who want strong border controls must vote UKIP."

Leanne Wood: "Plaid Cymru congratulates Jeremy Corbyn on his election. We hope that he will now deliver the votes of his MPs to join Plaid Cymru MPs in opposing those Tory policies that are causing great harm to people in Wales and beyond. However, his election cannot alter Labour's dismal record in government in Wales. Their legacy, especially since devolution is one of failure and managed decline. They have taken people for granted and they need replacing at next May's election. The Party of Wales is ready with a strong and progressive programme of government to provide that new competent leadership."
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« Reply #1227 on: September 12, 2015, 06:22:27 AM »

The SNP are potential winners here. With the new Nationalist-Unionist spectrum a lot of 'anyone but SNP' voters might be more hesitant to tactically vote Labour, particularly when it comes to matters of the wallet. They won't necessarily vote SNP, but it helps blunt that appeal a little.
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« Reply #1228 on: September 12, 2015, 06:28:14 AM »

The ramifications of that awful decision made by the electoral college in 2010 of electing Ed Miliband as leader keep right on coming.

If Corbyn leads Labour into the 2020 general election I predict a Conservative majority of between 70 and 110 with the party's popular vote below the 27.6% Michael Foot achieved in 1983.
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« Reply #1229 on: September 12, 2015, 06:29:24 AM »

From a different perspective:

Katie Hopkins (@KTHopkins)Sad Yippeeeee. Free Unicorns for all #labourleadership

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« Reply #1230 on: September 12, 2015, 06:30:28 AM »

The SNP are potential winners here. With the new Nationalist-Unionist spectrum a lot of 'anyone but SNP' voters might be more hesitant to tactically vote Labour, particularly when it comes to matters of the wallet. They won't necessarily vote SNP, but it helps blunt that appeal a little.
Possibly, but the SNP could lose voters to Labour in Scotland. However, I feel Labour could lose voters in England, leading to another Tory government, benefiting the independence movement that way. It would be interesting to see though...

@scottreid1980: "A few texts from centre-ground former Labour supporters saying they have no-one to vote for. #labourleadership"
@WingsScotland: "@scottreid1980 Sure they do. The Tories."

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« Reply #1231 on: September 12, 2015, 06:32:05 AM »

Jeremy Corbyn has pulled out of The Andrew Marr Show on the BBC tomorrow. Either he's wrecked his voice from that speech or the team really don't want to subject him to an extensive broadcast interview.
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« Reply #1232 on: September 12, 2015, 06:32:31 AM »

The fact that the Lib Dems are decimated will be of a great help to the Labour Party over the next few years.
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« Reply #1233 on: September 12, 2015, 06:34:44 AM »

The fact that the Lib Dems are decimated will be of a great help to the Labour Party over the next few years.

Not really, there's no source of votes left there.
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« Reply #1234 on: September 12, 2015, 06:36:15 AM »

Gillian Duffy (the "bigoted" woman from the 2010 campaign) has said she won't be voting for Labour again.
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« Reply #1235 on: September 12, 2015, 06:39:50 AM »

Second resignation: Rachel Reeves, Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary. She's currently on maternity leave but will return to backbenches as too many differences with Corbyn.
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« Reply #1236 on: September 12, 2015, 06:43:18 AM »

The fact that the Lib Dems are decimated will be of a great help to the Labour Party over the next few years.

Not really, there's no source of votes left there.

It will be the other way around, this will help the Lib Dems pick up. And it will be probably be the 80s all over again.
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« Reply #1237 on: September 12, 2015, 06:46:05 AM »

The fact that the Lib Dems are decimated will be of a great help to the Labour Party over the next few years.

Not really, there's no source of votes left there.

I meant that had the past few years not happened and the Lib Dems had some integrity and a 20% vote share, they would be in a far better position to attract votes from Labour.
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« Reply #1238 on: September 12, 2015, 06:54:31 AM »

Gillian Duffy (the "bigoted" woman from the 2010 campaign) has said she won't be voting for Labour again.
She said this now? Why?
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« Reply #1239 on: September 12, 2015, 06:55:05 AM »

Daily Mirror has got a bit overexcited...

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« Reply #1240 on: September 12, 2015, 06:57:54 AM »

Gillian Duffy (the "bigoted" woman from the 2010 campaign) has said she won't be voting for Labour again.
She said this now? Why?

Attention?
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« Reply #1241 on: September 12, 2015, 07:04:21 AM »

Rachel Reeves has started her leadership candidacy.

New Labour is truly dead
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« Reply #1242 on: September 12, 2015, 07:05:22 AM »

Nicola Sturgeon: "We congratulate Jeremy Corbyn on his victory and hope that we can work constructively with him in a progressive alliance against Tory austerity. We also call on him to give an early commitment that Labour MPs will join the SNP in voting against the £100 billion renewal of Trident. However, the reality today is that at a time when the country needs strong opposition to the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn leads a deeply, and very bitterly, divided party. Indeed, if Labour cannot quickly demonstrate that they have a credible chance of winning the next UK general election, many more people in Scotland are likely to conclude that independence is the only alternative to continued Tory government. In the meantime, it is clearer than ever that the only credible and united opposition to the Tories, north and south of the border, is the SNP"

Jesus Christ. She's so frank-- "if the rest of Britain dares hold different opinions from us and vote for the party we want, we'll break away". How absolutely childish!
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« Reply #1243 on: September 12, 2015, 07:13:18 AM »

Bollocks. There goes all the money I put (at least I nailed it on Watson)

So any ideas on how the shadow cabinet is going to look like?
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« Reply #1244 on: September 12, 2015, 07:21:23 AM »

Cooper and Tristram Hunt also leaving Shadow Cabinet.
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« Reply #1245 on: September 12, 2015, 07:37:23 AM »

Cooper and Tristram Hunt also leaving Shadow Cabinet.

Didn't he say that Corbyn deserved the party's full support? If so his departure from the shadow cabinet doesn't exactly look like a show of support.
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« Reply #1246 on: September 12, 2015, 07:39:14 AM »

Nicola Sturgeon: "We congratulate Jeremy Corbyn on his victory and hope that we can work constructively with him in a progressive alliance against Tory austerity. We also call on him to give an early commitment that Labour MPs will join the SNP in voting against the £100 billion renewal of Trident. However, the reality today is that at a time when the country needs strong opposition to the Tories, Jeremy Corbyn leads a deeply, and very bitterly, divided party. Indeed, if Labour cannot quickly demonstrate that they have a credible chance of winning the next UK general election, many more people in Scotland are likely to conclude that independence is the only alternative to continued Tory government. In the meantime, it is clearer than ever that the only credible and united opposition to the Tories, north and south of the border, is the SNP"

Jesus Christ. She's so frank-- "if the rest of Britain dares hold different opinions from us and vote for the party we want, we'll break away". How absolutely childish!
No. She's saying that if the people of Scotland feel that another Conservative government is likely - the Scottish people will be more likely to want independence.

Don't forget the only 15% of voters in Scotland voted Tory in the UK election this year - compared to 40% in England and Wales (combined).
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« Reply #1247 on: September 12, 2015, 07:45:53 AM »

Newsnight graphic showing voters needed to beat the Tories:
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« Reply #1248 on: September 12, 2015, 08:12:33 AM »

Seven front bench resignations now.
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« Reply #1249 on: September 12, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »

@ProfTimBale: For the record: #JeremyCorbyn won 49.6% of #Labour members, 85.8% of (£3) registered supporters, & 57.6% of (union) affiliated supporters
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