Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

Lean R. It's currently a statistical tie and the likely republican leader is a terrible candidate.

[Alabama_Indy10]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Jones also lacks a clear message besides just being the D candidate

[GeorgiaModerate]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Jones also lacks a clear message besides just being the D candidate

"I'm not Roy Moore" has a lot going for it.

[Alabama_Indy10]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Jones also lacks a clear message besides just being the D candidate

"I'm not Roy Moore" has a lot going for it.

Not in Alabama it doesn't.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Not for Alabama, if anything that's a pro for Moore. Also prosecuting and jailing KKK members in Alabama is probably baggage in such a backwards state.

[Alabama_Indy10]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Not for Alabama, if anything that's a pro for Moore. Also prosecuting and jailing KKK members in Alabama is probably baggage in such a backwards state.

Come on now.. that's stretching it

[TheSaint250]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Not for Alabama, if anything that's a pro for Moore. Also prosecuting and jailing KKK members in Alabama is probably baggage in such a backwards state.

...what?

[Kingpoleon]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Not for Alabama, if anything that's a pro for Moore. Also prosecuting and jailing KKK members in Alabama is probably baggage in such a backwards state.

Prejudice against an entire group of people to the point of being seemingly hyperbolic but serious is despicable and deplorable.

[Santander]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Not for Alabama, if anything that's a pro for Moore. Also prosecuting and jailing KKK members in Alabama is probably baggage in such a backwards state.

Uh, no it isn't. Alabamians are not proud of their state's past associaton with the Klan and hate them.

[Gass3268]

Could a Jones-Moore election look something like this?

[Fudotei]

Luther Strange won 54-45 in the 2006 primary against George Wallace Jr (who has stronger white nationalist ties than Roy Moore has 'executegate' ties) -- when he was more popular and when turnout for him was up. He beat Wallace in the initial primary 48-33 and he's lost this election 38-33. So who knows? Maybe he is doomed.

[RINO Tom]

Bret Baier doesn't want to give Jones any leverage. If Strange was safe in the primary, I could see Baier bringing up ExecutionGate to laugh at Moore even more, but given that there is a significant risk of Moore being nominated, representatives of the GOP must avoid criticizing him to avoid helping Jones gain support.

Bret Baier isn't exactly a "representative of the GOP".  According to a Harvard study, his show is virtually right down the middle- 51% anti-Trump and 49% pro-Trump (which makes it the most right-wing flagship telecast, but it is ever so slightly left-leaning).

Special Report has always been a favorite of anti-Trump "Republicans". To call it left-leaning, even slightly, is hyperbole. It's a fair and serious, but center-right show that attracts a center-right audience.

Come on, man.  Can't be putting "Republicans" in quotes like that to describe people who don't go around saying they identify as Democrats like you, LOL.

[Greedo punched first]

Strange has been doing better in the latest polls.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Strange has been doing better in the latest polls.

Yeah, I'm starting to think that Strange may pull this out.  I have a feeling that the undecideds will break in his favor.

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I mean the last poll was Gravis, and well... I mean it's Gravis so.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

This is the second worst state in the union besides Mississippi.

[tmthforu94]

This is the second worst state in the union besides Mississippi.

Insightful. Thank you for your contribution.

[Holmes]

I mean the last poll was Gravis, and well... I mean it's Gravis so.

Yup. I still believe Moore will win. He hasn't really helped himself these past few weeks but I think that's damaged him in the general more so than the primary.

[Kingpoleon]

This is the second worst state in the union after Texas.

FTFY

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

This is the second worst state in the union after Texas.

FTFY

Lol, good humor man .

[100% pro-life no matter what]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Do you know what the alt-right is?  Alt-right people are largely atheist, pro-abortion (for eugenics reasons), and indifferent to liberal on issues of sexuality.  That doesn't sound like the Moore base at all.  The Moore base is probably more similar to the Cruz base, especially if Trump wasn't on the ballot.

[Alabama_Indy10]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Do you know what the alt-right is?  Alt-right people are largely atheist, pro-abortion (for eugenics reasons), and indifferent to liberal on issues of sexuality.  That doesn't sound like the Moore base at all.  The Moore base is probably more similar to the Cruz base, especially if Trump wasn't on the ballot.

He's using terms like "alt-right" and "neo-Nazi" to try to make his argument sound big and bad. And because he was no clue about Moore's supporters.

[Greedo punched first]

The problem for Moore is that while amping up the alt-right, neo-nazi, ultra-conservative sector might get him a narrow runoff victory, it also gives plenty of ammunition to Jones for the general. Jones meanwhile has no clear gaffes yet and doesn't have significant baggage.

Do you know what the alt-right is?  Alt-right people are largely atheist, pro-abortion (for eugenics reasons), and indifferent to liberal on issues of sexuality.  That doesn't sound like the Moore base at all.  The Moore base is probably more similar to the Cruz base, especially if Trump wasn't on the ballot.

Moore's base is more like Cruz. Blue Dog Democrats who oppose the ACA are more likely to vote for Strange because he is more economically moderate than Moore and more conservative than Jones.

[The Other Castro]

Mo Brooks endorsing Roy Moore:

Alex Isenstadt @politicoalex
NEWS: Mo Brooks tells me he will endorse Roy Moore at Alabama rally this afternoon

https://twitter.com/politicoalex/status/909099042877186048

[Classic Conservative]

He also voted for Moore today.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/909103059942432772