Politics and Elections in the Netherlands: coalition agreement presented

[Velasco]

Rumors are that Denk is larger than PvdA in Rotterdam

Although that could said more about the state PvdA than Denk

PvdA joins the long list of socialist/social democratic parties in Europe that have become zombies. PASOK, PSOE, Irish Labour, French PS, UK Labour, MSZP, etc, etc.

Some of these parties are more dead than others. The Dutch and the Greek ones have dropped below 10%. Others are still polling above 10% or 20%. The magnitude of the catastrophe says that PvdA is the new PASOK. Is this poetic justice?

[DavidB.]

Buma and Rutte really really really really really really don't like each other. This matters.

[seb_pard]

In those municipalities in the north PVV has substantial gains, but SP has improved too. I hope, really hope, that the party will fight against PVV for the support of the working class, they mustn't give them to the hard right.

[seb_pard]

Rumors are that Denk is larger than PvdA in Rotterdam

Although that could said more about the state PvdA than Denk

PvdA joins the long list of socialist/social democratic parties in Europe that have become zombies. PASOK, PSOE, Irish Labour, French PS, UK Labour, MSZP, etc, etc.

Some of these parties are more dead than others. The Dutch and the Greek ones have dropped below 10%. Others are still polling above 10% or 20%. The magnitude of the catastrophe says that PvdA is the new PASOK. Is this poetic justice?

Poetic justice, I couldn't have said it better myself.

[GlobeSoc]

Implosion of PvdA+Decline of VVD= Massive rainbow of color

[SunSt0rm]

Buma and Rutte really really really really really really don't like each other. This matters.

True, but Rutte and Pechtold like each other, and Buma and Pechtold can work together. So it shouldnt be a problem

[Zinneke]

Rumors are that Denk is larger than PvdA in Rotterdam

Although that could said more about the state PvdA than Denk

PvdA joins the long list of socialist/social democratic parties in Europe that have become zombies. PASOK, PSOE, Irish Labour, French PS, UK Labour, MSZP, etc, etc.

Some of these parties are more dead than others. The Dutch and the Greek ones have dropped below 10%. Others are still polling above 10% or 20%. The magnitude of the catastrophe says that PvdA is the new PASOK. Is this poetic justice?

Netherlands is more due to a competetive electoral market. very easy to go from Samsom to Klaver. Very similar profiles, language, etc. Then the other disapointed go to D66 to check them out.

Greece I think had a lot to do with the entire country being on the brink of economic collapse.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

It's impressive to see the GL improve in the rural areas.

[Diouf]

And I guess if, as the prognosis shows, CDA will be so clearly in second, it will not look crazy weird if they at least try to pursue a centre-left coalition with Buma as PM. The ball is mostly in CDA's half in terms of which coalition we end up with. Probably still more likely to back Rutte, but not set in stone.

[SunSt0rm]

Bellwether Heemskerk:

VVD 24.3%
PVV 12.9%
D66 12.1%
CDA 11.5%
SP 9.3%
GL 9.3%
PvdA 6.1%

[seb_pard]

One question, is North Holland an hostile territory to CDA? Their rise there is much lower than in the rest of the country

[seb_pard]

One question, is North Holland a hostile territory to CDA? Their rise there is much lower than in the rest of the country

[SunSt0rm]

One question, is North Holland an hostile territory to CDA? Their rise there is much lower than in the rest of the country

CDA stronghold should be outside the Randstad

[Zinneke]

Roermond another dead heat between VVD and PVV.
Capital of Limburg nationalism.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Why is the CDA doing so well in the north? Isn't that leftist country?

[Tintrlvr]

One question, is North Holland an hostile territory to CDA? Their rise there is much lower than in the rest of the country

I think Noord-Holland even outside the Amsterdam region is less religious, so people leaving VVD or PvdA there are more likely to switch to D66, GL or PVV than CDA. D66 has a bunch of second-place finishes there so far.

[SunSt0rm]

Why is the CDA doing so well in the north? Isn't that leftist country?

North is PvdA and CDA country. Populist and liberal parties arent doing well there

[Sozialliberal]

A general comment:

Dutch elections are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

Seriously, I'm glad that the PVV isn't the largest party and that a stable government (in Dutch terms) can be formed.

[Zinneke]

Why is the CDA doing so well in the north? Isn't that leftist country?

North is PvdA and CDA country. Populist and liberal parties arent doing well there

East Groningen begs to differ.

[Intell]

How are working class areas voting? How is the north, which was solidly labour, voting, are these areas working class?

[SunSt0rm]

Why is the CDA doing so well in the north? Isn't that leftist country?

North is PvdA and CDA country. Populist and liberal parties arent doing well there

East Groningen begs to differ.

True, its more the rust belt.

This map will explain much of the Dutch electoral map
In the civil belt, CDA should be stronger than the VVD if they are close

[Crumpets]

So if I'm reading the map right, PvdA has yet to actually be declared the winner in a single seat?

[SunSt0rm]

So if I'm reading the map right, PvdA has yet to actually be declared the winner in a single seat?

If I am correct, Leeuwaarden is their only chance, if they lose their, they will not win any municipality

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

PVV won SCHIEDAM with 19.7% DENK got 8.2%

[DavidB.]

Exit poll seems to be fine. PVV doesn't seem to be overperforming. PVV in Zaanstad disappointing,